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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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I'm new to the whole Z scene and I've searched around the website but couldn't come up with exactly what I was looking for. I want to get a Z but I'm concerned about the reliabily issues in modding one. I know I want to get more hp out of the Z for track days but I was wondering what the best way to go about it is. I've heard of a few people on this website who have turboed their Z's and have blown the motors which is a risk i'm not willing to take. I wanted to do simple mods such as a big break kit, LSD, suspension, big sticky tires etc.. but I also wanted to do something about the power. In other words what would be the best way to up the power in a Z and still have it be reliable? Turboing and supercharging seem like they would cost a lot of money to do it right and then they still run a high risk of blowing up anyway. If I went NA what mods would I do to get the most reliable power and a broad tq/hp band? What kind of power figures would I come out with? Would that be more reliable? Thanks.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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I'm new to the whole Z scene and I've searched around the website but couldn't come up with exactly what I was looking for. I want to get a Z but I'm concerned about the reliabily issues in modding one. I know I want to get more hp out of the Z for track days but I was wondering what the best way to go about it is. I've heard of a few people on this website who have turboed their Z's and have blown the motors which is a risk i'm not willing to take. I wanted to do simple mods such as a big break kit, LSD, suspension, big sticky tires etc.. but I also wanted to do something about the power. In other words what would be the best way to up the power in a Z and still have it be reliable? Turboing and supercharging seem like they would cost a lot of money to do it right and then they still run a high risk of blowing up anyway. If I went NA what mods would I do to get the most reliable power and a broad tq/hp band? What kind of power figures would I come out with? Would that be more reliable? Thanks.
Look I'm nver one to bust anybodys ***** but you have got to do a little more searching. There are HUNDREDS of threads on the advantages and disadvantages of each path.

Otherwise its just gonna be the same old thread where we:
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Ok well I learned more from searching and a TT kit doesn't sounds as bad as it did before but I'm still concerned about the reliability issues. Is there anyway to build up the stock block enough to make around 400-500whp from a turbo kit and not have something break?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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Is there anyway to build up the stock block enough to make around 400-500whp from a turbo kit and not have something break?

I am not trying to bust your ***** either but the answer to this questions in a sticky. Here's the link

Info on how to build motor

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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If you want twins, APS has a bulletproof record for now. That does not mean it cant/wont happen. In fact one tuner has been safely making 505 whp on a stock engine. Many are right in 400-450 whp range on a stock engine. If you want single, either the Turbonetics or APS single should suffice and still put out close to 400 whp. The coming months will determine how reliable both of the single T's are. Miaplaya is running the turbonetics setup and seems very happy. APS is releasing their single soon. Keep note you ran many risks anytime you go FI. People tell you to search bc this is all we have been talking about for the last 6 months nonstop and every answer can be found in numerous threads...literally. Don't mind them but still a thorough search will get you what you need. Good luck
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Also you will find that the search function is not the greatest on this board. It helps if you try your search using different word combinations.
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So a built block is def the way to go in other words..

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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
I am not trying to bust your ***** either but the answer to this questions in a sticky. Here's the link

Info on how to build motor

Noob info
Haha love the noob info link, nice touch. I got it search, search, search, sorry guys
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Haha love the noob info link, nice touch. I got it search, search, search, sorry guys

Welcome to the board....
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Ok don't get me wrong I'm sure people are making that much power on a stock engine but for how long? The stock engine isn't meant to hold that much power and their just straigh up looking for trouble. In order to have the car run good it would need a hell of a lot of tuning when the pistons and cams etc.. are changed to rebuild the block because the engine's system will have to be totally remaped right? Then the turbo kit.. In order to do all that tuning to make the car run well won't that be a couple thousand dollars? I just want to know who on this message board actually has a totally built motor with a turbo on it and how is it running, how much power are they pushing, how much tuning did they have to get done with remapping etc, and how much did they spend in all? I'm just trying to really get a grasp on if turboing the Z is a good idea or not because all the stuff that has to be done and all the tens if not hundrends of hours that have to go in to tune the car so it runs decently with a built and turbo charged engine just doesn't seem worth it for the amount of money invested and the amount of potential problems...

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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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There are several people on this board that just got their motors built and they drive their cars daily. Since most of them just got their cars back they are still breaking in the motor. Right now they are in the 500rwp area and will soon retune after the break to try to reach the 600rwhp. You are looking at $15-$20 for a twin turbo kit, built motor, labor, and extras.

YOU GOT TO PAY TO PLAY....ESPECIALLY WITH THIS CAR!
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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But with that $15-20 grand will that make it so the motor won't blow or is it still a high risk of it blowing? Let me know when you find out how there motors are doing in the future and if they are having any problems with them or not because that will be my deciding factor for if i'll go with a TT kit or not.
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