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Im thinking of gettin 350z later this summer, and install APS TT system in it, but i have a question how much is it usually to build a motor, i wanna be on a safe side, plus later on i want more power out of it. anyone who build a motor what was your bill like just for internal work?

Alberto

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Search button is your friend This has been discussed numerous times, I can even think of 2 posts off the top of my head where the complete invoice for parts/labor was posted.

Gman2004

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SGP is going to build my bottom end. Here are their packages. I found this to be the easiest and best choice for me since I have never gotten this done before and don't just want to go with any shop. SGP does quality proven work. The core charge is refunded when you ship them your block, although SGP does not have any blocks right now so you will have buy one or ship them yours.

Basic short block: $2700 + $1000 core


Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
Shot peened stock rods
ARP Rod Studs
New Rod and Main bearings w/ceramic coating
CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)


Upgraded Shortblock: $3600 + $1000 core


Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
New Main and Rod bearings w/ceramic coating
*Pauter Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)


Ultimate short block: $3900 + $1000 core


Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
New Main and Rod bearings w/ceramic coating
Pauter Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
*Ceramic coating on Pistons
*ARP Main Studs


Basic Long Block: $4500 + $2000 core


Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
Shot peened stock rods
ARP Rod Studs
New bearing and rings
CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
Heads oil passages cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set
New Valve stem seals
New Nissan Head gaskets
New Nissan Oil Pump
New Nissan Cam seals


Upgraded Long Block #1: $5900 + $2000 Core


Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
New Main and Rod bearings w/ceramic coating
Shot peened stock rods
ARP Rod Bolts
CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
Heads oil passages cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
5 angle valve job
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set
*JWT Upgraded Cams
*JWT HD Valve Springs
New Valve stem seals
New Nissan Head gaskets
New Nissan Oil Pump
New Nissan Cam seals


Upgraded Long Block #2: $6000 + $2000 Core


Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
New Main and Rod bearings w/ceramic coating
*Pauter Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
*ARP Main Studs
*ARP Head Studs
Heads oil passages cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
5 angle valve job
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set
New Valve stem seals
New Nissan Head gaskets
New Nissan Oil Pump
New Nissan Cam seals


Upgraded Long Block #3: $7500 + $2000 Core


Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
New Main and Rod bearings w/ceramic coating
Pauter Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
*Ceramic coating on Pistons
ARP Main Studs
ARP Head Studs
Heads oil passages cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
*JWT Upgraded Cams
*JWT HD Valve Springs
5 angle valve job
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set
New Valve stem seals
New Nissan Head gaskets
New Nissan Oil Pump
New Nissan Cam seals

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wow thanks!!!!

and alberto no need to be an ***! when people ask for help, help them, no need to be a smaart ***!!!

Gman2004

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Don't take it personally. Sometimes the same questions gets asked several times a week, so some of the veterans get a little tired of it.

BTW, SGP racing is a sponser on this site.

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what is the difference between short block and long block? and what would be the best block setup for APS TT and lets say 500 to 600 rwhp???

I'd assume Upgraded Long Block #3 would work well?

Also with proper maintance would it work fine within 3-5 years?

Thanks for your help guys, I just need all that info!!!

KY350

Short block = bottom end only (ie not the head)

Long block = whole motor including bottom end and head

Gman2004

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If you go with the ultimate short block you should hit up to 530whp. If you add cams to that maybe 550whp. To go over 600whp you need head work so long block#3 would be good. As far as the motor lasting 3-5, I don't know. It guess it depends how hard and how much you beat the car. SGP offer a 1 year warranty on their motors. You can also buy a 3 year extened warranty. The short block 3 year warranty is $300 and the long block warranty is $500. I will let you know in 3 years how my SGP short block is doing....j/k

G2FAST

This might be a dumb question but I have to ask!!! Would building your engine mess up your carb approval?

Sharif@Forged

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Lower CR motors, will have higher emmissions output. But CARB approval is something that parts manufacturers are seeking, not the consumer. You wil still have to pass smog tests in your state, but building the motor, in itself, will not prevent you from getting a smog cert. It really depends on the work you are doing, and your total emmissions level as a result of all of those mods.

bruschijr

keep in mind also that besides those costs... there is still labor costs... which could range from free to extremely expensive...

make sure you consider asking shops for those costs when you think about doing this.

vq_drewww

well? i’d love an update

travlee

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He hasn't logged on for 8.5 years

vq_drewww

🥲 oh dang

bealljk

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