im told i need to get a fuel pump, bigger injectors, and a new computer or a reflash..... my procharger is goin on soon and i want to order what i need so i can have everything on time to install..... n e one with info would help..... justin

 

I'm not sure with the Procharger, but it all depends on how much boost you are looking to add. Fuel pump, injectors, some sort of timing control, some sort of fuel managment control, some gauges to monitor what it going on (A/F, EGT, Boost, Fuel pressure are some usefull ones). IF you are planning on boost lots them I would say you should build the engine.

 

Mos of what you need is in the kit execpt the timing solution and maybe shield the CAS as well.
Bigger injectors are simply not needed at this power level if you stay at 7 psi.

Also no boost gauge needed ,as its a centrifugal SC, so your Tach is your boost gauge with a 7 psi pulley approx 1000rpm= 1 psi of boost.

AF gauge is a good idea but fuel pressure (which i dont have yet) even more impotant to see AF prob;lems before they happen.

I belive a centrifugal SC is one of the safest FI set-ups out there.

Just be sure you add the timing solution, especially if you are running on cali/arizona gas.

J&S is a spendy but good way to go.

See my sig for my set-up.

Fred..

 

im pretty much looki to add the procharger, stay at the normal level of boost, im not gonna raise it or n e thing, i do not want to blow my engine, thats why im not even messin around, so does everyone think its pretty safe stock.......

 

i recommend a bible.

 

hahaaha, so u dont think i have a good chance of keepin the engine....... or u dont believe in the procharger

 

LOL, the Greddy TT and ATI procharger probably rank #1 and #2 in terms of blown motors around here..

At a minimum here is what you need for the procharger:
1. Wideband O2 A/F gauge
2. Boost Gauge
3. J&S Safeguard

If you have the cash and wanted to go all out:
1. Wideband O2 A/F gauge
2. Boost Gauge
3. Ditch the DFMU and external pump
4. AAM or C-J Motorsports Return Fuel System
5. Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump
6. 440cc Injectors
7. Greddy eManage

^^ I've had my procharger for over a year now and this is what I'm upgrading to just as soon as I get it..

--mike

 

Trust me, a boost gauge is crucial with a blower... Any belt slippage and this will be indicitave of it.

 

Well Mike, lol back at you

None of the blown ATI, we seen were running with timing solution.

centirifugals are basically the same in their bosst characteristics, other than pulley and longevity of SC iself ( ATI appears to have better workmanship than vortec I seen 'em both)

Vortec came with timing solution from factory hence less blown engines.

-As for the above 04.5 and later have wide band stock according to this site.
-Why bother with a boost gauge?
Have you <seen> the ATI belts with their big teth perfectly meshing in with the pulleys?
There will be no slippage here, no need for boost gauge, as a centrifugal as boost is linear and no overboost condtion possible as long as rev limiter is stock.
-I agree with J&S safeguard giving superior protection which is why I bought it.


Unlike TT's which have blown engine even with perfect tunes and the best peripherals, centrifugals havent (unless a broken SC takes out engine like recenttly happened with an overboosted vortec, but this is not possible with ATI due to seperate oiling system)

One of the big probs with a TT IMO, is all this torque at low RPMS. lugging is terrible hard on bearing/rods especially lugging with that much extra non stock power.

At lugging revs with a centrifugal SC you are only sitting at 3 psi boost which is not too far from stock power level..

So this is also something that cant happen with a centrifugal SC, the safest way to go FI

Fred..

 

Yes, I've been running a Procharger myself for over a year now..

Not sure what you mean by 04.5's and later "have wide band stock"

why bother with a boost gauge? The belts don't last forever as you will or may have found out.. Don't you wanna know when they start slipping? Good example of my boost guage saving me: Last Oct, I noticed I was not making my usual 7.5psi of boost for some reason.. got worse and worse.. well what happened was the pin backed out on one of my pulleys.. and it was causing the belt to slips worse and worse.. and the pulley was slowly backing out on top of the cam sensor wire!! If I would have drove w/o a boost guage I prolly would never know what happened until the cam sensor got ripped out and my motor died..

--mike

 

I recommend a wideband o2 like zeitronix and boost gauge. I have bigger injector but do not actually need them. I just got a good deal on them. I did not use the fuel management from the kit and went with a TS Reflash instead and works great. Good luck and don't be afraid.

 

If you are planning to stay at the stock boost, have you looked into the Vortech kit? It pretty much comes ready to go out of the box. I think its much more safe then the ATI, but I believe you can get more HP out of the ATI if you plan on upgrading.

 

They are both centrifugals, there is no suich thing as one being inherently safer than the other if the peripherals are equal.

The only caveat is psi (vortec vs 7 ATI) oiling system (advanatge ATI) and timing solution (advatge vortec but everyone adds thios to ATI nowadays anyway)..
If you just buy the kit and nothing else for the money the Vortec is more as its kinda safe to run out of box and ATI needs timing solution.

But basically they are both centrifugals so both act on engine equally