Can anyone offer some information on what stand-alone systems exist that can be used on a twin turboed z...

a few points of interest...
-a system that would allow the stock ecu to think it is in charge and still control other funstions (ex. cruise control)
-tunability... not a system that only uses authorized dealers and keeps their tuning software hidden in a vault (like fcon or the aps chip)

-also, safety precautions/warning signals- knock sensor..timing retard, that sort of thing
(on a side note, what type of knock sensor system can be incorporated with the e-manage?)

Phunk, could you please explain in a bit of detail what you had hypothesized would work when we spoke yesterday...

Thanks for the feedback

TODD

 

Ok, first question. budget.
Answer that then we'll talk.

I have quite few ideas....
I'll PM you my number.

 

Haven't seen anything available yet. AEM is probably the best future option...but of course not available yet. I think the closest to what you are asking for that is currently available is the HKS F-Con Pro V. There are always options if cash is unlimited

 

AEM is on hold w/ plug-n-pray.
Cannot get the gauge cluster to work correctly. Among other things...

 

i dunno whats available, but what about a haltech? very common in the tuning world

 

Yeah, I thought about Haltech...

The only standalone is the HKS F-Con V-Pro. They can only be tuned by HKS Pro-Dealers. You lose some functions like cruise control or TCS/VDC (don't remember which), some partially, some completely.

Any other options will require custom tuning, so no matter what you get, you'll have to find a great tuner willing to do a custom job. (Haltech, MoTeC, etc.)

It's not going to cost less than $3,000 for the unit itself IMO.

 

I am using the Autronic but it will not do drive by wire. InjectedPerf is using a different stand alone what will understand the Z's drive by wire I am not sure what the name of it was. You may want to send him a PM.

 

Screw all that, i'm waiting for AEM

 

As posted in other threads, your going to be waiting a while. I'd be suprised if it came to market by this time next year.

 

Are you using an Autronic on the Z? The SM4 is capable of drive by wire.
The system going on Greg's car is the one i've been speaking about for the past year. All information about this system will be released once everything is ready for retail release.

 

me too

 

The SM4 isn't out yet I don't think. Light Speed Performance/mazzoo are using the SM2.

The standalone ECU that allows you to keep certain functions, and isn't inexpensive for what it is?

 

SM4 is out, I have held them one my hands. Now wether there are any available for sale atm is a different question all together. I've been busy w/ dyno stuff and haven't kept up w/ the Autronic drama of recent, even though I'm a dealer. SM4 has 1 H-Bridge driver which could be used for the throttle by wire. The SM5 is going to have multiple H-Bridge which would allow you to control both throttle and CVTS. W/ SM4 it's 1 or the other but not both. SM5 is due out god only knows when, we waited w/ baited breath for 3 years for the SM4.

I was originally going to use an SM2 on my Z project. The ECU that is on IP's Z atm is going to be the ticket. Just a very expensive one.

 

I will be using the SM2 unless I can get my hands on the SM4. I have not had much luck as of yet. I would love to use the SM5 but like you said who knows when that will ever come out.

 

hks v-pro...

Sgp Racing was in the process of installing one on a G acouple months back, I spoke with my cousin who is currently tunning his v-pro powered supra with them and he said that they have completed one already and are working on one or two more with the V-pro. I know thats the way I'm going with my G. -Pdang

 

Hey...I'm patient!

Wouldn't it be a good idea to switch to a cable throttle setup? What will it take?

What other disadvantages are their from a full standalone(ex: universal AEM unit)? Just curious.

 

GSC Motorsports is coming out with something soon for a throttle-by-cable swap. (details are in the last few pages of sentry65's thread about the ECU)

 

Loss of the following functions:
CC
VDC
TCS
CTCS
and according to the guys @ Performance, there are some other functions the stock ECU has control over.

 

Take a look at DTA stand alone http://www.tpgproducts.com/enginemanage.html#pro8

 

Well to start of my car is a base so VDC, TCS are off the list. What exactly is CC and CTCS?