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Problems with APS TT Install, Take 2

Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Here is another one. The manual states: "The air cleaner is supported by the bracket (Item 6), which is mounted to the top of the RHS inner fender, as shown and attached to the filter by the hose clamp (Item 21) immediately behind the element." Like the following diagram:



The problem is that the bracket in question (item 6) is not made like shown in the picture. The upper tongue is the other way around. Did anyone come across this? Is it still possible to somehow install it the way pictured above (I don't see how!)? If not, is the manual wrong and should I cut and re-weld the bracket correctly?

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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I'd just cut and reweld it... a three minute job at worst... good luck with the install and it's good to know you're taking your time and being thorough...
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Very thorough job and attention to detail is always good. Personally I am enjoying finally seeing some glitches although small with the APS not so perfect after all.

Enjoy I am sure you will have a great sense of satisfaction when yo usee the final product and know you did it, it is not an easy chore.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Thanks guys. I hope someone can really confirm what I'm discovering. I will just cut and reweld, that's not a big issue to me. But the kit isn't perfect from what I can see. I prefer discovering these glitches now rather than when I really start installing the kit. My goal isn't to bash APS at all, I think it's also a great kit, I simply hope this info will be useful to others.

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by westpak
Very thorough job and attention to detail is always good. Personally I am enjoying finally seeing some glitches although small with the APS not so perfect after all.

Enjoy I am sure you will have a great sense of satisfaction when yo usee the final product and know you did it, it is not an easy chore.
I guess nothing can be perfect lol
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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These are some of the first brave souls that are attempting a self install. Great job guys...keep up the good work.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Madelinot
Thanks guys. I hope someone can really confirm what I'm discovering. I will just cut and reweld, that's not a big issue to me.
Certainly a small stuff up at our end, my sincere apologies. Our Production guys have thoroughly checked our records and there are 11 of these incorrect brackets in the field.


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But the kit isn't perfect from what I can see.
If you discover any other imperfection please let me know as this helps APS to continually improve quality control procedures.

Thanks

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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I had the same issue with my bracket and was able to bend it in a vise back the other way, no cutting or welding - though a hammer is helpful
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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If you discover any other imperfection please let me know as this helps APS to continually improve quality control procedures.
I sure will... Thanks!
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
I had the same issue with my bracket and was able to bend it in a vise back the other way, no cutting or welding - though a hammer is helpful
Yeh I'd just heat the bend up with a torch and it should easily bend the other way. If you do it cold , you most likely created stress fractures that could crack down the road, though it is certainly not a highly strained bracket.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Our Production guys have thoroughly checked our records and there are 11 of these incorrect brackets in the field.
YAY! I have one of them! jk, but really mine was like that, and I tried heating it up and bending it. It just broke off; guess I didn't get it hot enough. Also, the air ducting going into the intercooler didn't line up at ALL....I had to enlarge the mounting holes in the intercooler brackets to lower the intercooler enough for them to even half-*** fit. I could't figure out why they didn't fit. All I could gather was since the air filter bracket was messed up, maybe my piping wasn't bent correctly either. After lots of fudging with it, I got them to line up 'okay', even though they're not dead-on, but the silicon joiners flexed enough to make it work. I was very disappointed to say the least.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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we found that the charge pipes are a very rough fit... they line up at least as good as any other kit but since they charge pipes actually BOLT to the turbos this means they have to be perfect. With the greddy you have silicone couplers so it doesnt really matter there is a tad bit of play to line it up. we found that it was required to purchase longer couplers to connect at the 2 vertical intersections of charge pipes to get it all to fit right, the APS ones are super shorties. Also had to take the one power steering fluid tank bracket bolt out to clear the APS pipe, it was hitting there and I was concerned with over time it damaging the threads on the little bolts that hold the pipe in the turbo.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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we found that the charge pipes are a very rough fit...
Okay good, so I'm not crazy.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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+1 here, I had one of the 11 backward brackets....we just hammered the round side the other way and worked perfect
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 03:49 AM
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After looking at it some more last night, it seems the bracket will not even fit in the G35. Peter, it would be nice to get an install manual for the G35, or at least something that specifies what the differences are with the 350Z.

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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Peter, please make sure these quality issues are fixed with the STs!
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Peter, please make sure these quality issues are fixed with the STs!
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
Also had to take the one power steering fluid tank bracket bolt out to clear the APS pipe, it was hitting there and I was concerned with over time it damaging the threads on the little bolts that hold the pipe in the turbo.
There is a special dome head bolt supplied in the twin turbo system for this exact purpose.

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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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There is a special dome head bolt supplied in the twin turbo system for this exact purpose.

Peter
instructions? what instructions? sorry i have an extremely bad case of A.D.D. and the APS install manual was not exciting enough nor provided enough drama to keep me reading past page 4.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
instructions? what instructions? sorry i have an extremely bad case of A.D.D. and the APS install manual was not exciting enough nor provided enough drama to keep me reading past page 4.
Well if you don't follow the instructions Phunk then some times you will suffer more pain than necessary - instructions are not intended to be exciting, rather to make sure that the right parts are fitted in the correct order during the turbo install, no wonder you missed fitting the right bolt to ensure sufficient clearance to the charge air pipe.

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