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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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My point was...If AAM cant flash the ECU and get it to work RIGHT . They shouldnt be flashing the ECU for timing and fuel for the Vortech and the 3.12 pulley AT ALL !!!!!!!!!! When it can easily be done with the SS box

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 06:11 AM
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Hey booger, I'm thinking about running the 3.12 pulley w/ stock injectors when I get my vortech in but I'm asking thinking about getting the TS F-reflash (to increase idle) but was wondering if I will run into the same problem with the AAM reflash?

Can't the ss box be tuned to give more fuel up top with the AAM reflash>?
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_pharmD
Hey booger, I'm thinking about running the 3.12 pulley w/ stock injectors when I get my vortech in but I'm asking thinking about getting the TS F-reflash (to increase idle) but was wondering if I will run into the same problem with the AAM reflash?

Can't the ss box be tuned to give more fuel up top with the AAM reflash>?
Can somebody chime in and answer. I was, myself, considering a reflash (which apparently is an 'unknown' with the UK ECU) but if I was to have a successful reflash, the objective would be to diminish the reliance on the intervention of the SS box. In other words, the SS box would still be there but would be much more neutral in respect of fuel and timing. I hadn't appreciated (and I'm not sure this is what's meant) that the AAM reflash replaces whats done in the SS box and the latter is no longer required.

As I say, I'm (almost) sure that's not the case but its what I'm reading between the lines of previous posts
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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From what I'm reading, it seems like the AAM is causing the car to lean up top. So if that is the case, can retuning the ss box on the dyno make this problem go away by richening the fuel?
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_pharmD
From what I'm reading, it seems like the AAM is causing the car to lean up top. So if that is the case, can retuning the ss box on the dyno make this problem go away by richening the fuel?
Absolutely. It's very common to use a reflash coupled with another ECM, such as the Split Second box or eManage. Should work just fine.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Absolutely. It's very common to use a reflash coupled with another ECM, such as the Split Second box or eManage. Should work just fine.
Sharif, thats helpful Just slightly OT can I ask if you know about whether flashes on European model Zs are available or what ECU differences are between the one model we get there are those in States and elsewhere.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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Sharif, thats helpful Just slightly OT can I ask if you know about whether flashes on European model Zs are available or what ECU differences are between the one model we get there are those in States and elsewhere.
You should send in email to technosquare. I am not certain if the europe spec ECU's can be reflashed by them.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
You should send in email to technosquare. I am not certain if the europe spec ECU's can be reflashed by them.
I've tried twice but no reply.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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I've tried twice but no reply.
That probably means no.

If you are just looking for the L-Spec reflash, I imagine that is something they could do.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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L-Spec, forgive me I don't know what that is

[I'd assumed no response meant no too ]

AAM have asked for ECU serial number when i contacted them, seemed a bit more interested at least TBH. Think they use same s/w though?

EDIT---> Just found out that L=Limited which means rev limiter to 7100 and removal of top speed limiter but no changes to fuel and timing maps. Not interested in that one I don't think

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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 06:41 AM
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Hey everyone its Mike form Altered!

There seems to be some questions about ECU Flashing and the SS Box.

The ECU Flash does not replace the SS Box. The ECU Flash has three major advantages with a higher rev-limiter, stabalized timing maps, and proper timing maps for forced induction (along with several other minor updates). So the SS Box is no longer needed to control timing.

The SS Box is retained to control fuel. It does not make sense to tune fuel through the ECU on forced induction 350Z's & G's because there are too many varriances between different setups. The SS Box can be used with the Vortech fuel system (inline fuel pump & stock injectors) or the SS Box can be used to tune larger injectors (many people forgo the vortech inline fuel pump & use 440cc injectors & walboro pump - this is what I did on my ATI Procharged 350Z).

Hope this helps,

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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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Mike,

I'm gonna get that ECU code (European) for you as soon as I pick the car up Thursday - the shop have been doing other things and haven't looked for me yet.

Presumably there is nothing preventing you adding or subtracting timing with the SS box over and above what the reflash does - just that you say that it won't be needed?
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by prescience
Presumably there is nothing preventing you adding or subtracting timing with the SS box over and above what the reflash does - just that you say that it won't be needed?
You should not need to adjust the timing with the Flash Upgrade, but you will still be able to subtract timing with the SS Box.

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