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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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Tim...congradulations...so glad things finally worked out for you!!!
hey, can you share your timing stradegy? how much of a timing advance are u running at 4500rpm? 5000? 5500? 6000? 6500? to redline?

please share- want to get an idea of what u are doing on pump gas

be careful!!!!
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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very impressive with pump gas. it takes skills to do that with pump gas rather than race gas. the power of a standalone + a excellent tuner = amazing results

btw the open dump tube wouldn't make power because they're releasing the exhaust gases faster but rather it is not causing turbulence in the downpipe, disrupting flow. It's especially bad in these aftermarket turbo kits where the wastegates dumps the exhaust gas at a 90 degree angle right up next to the turbo causing major turbulence

If you must have a close loop wastegate setup, you must route the dumps at least 18" down from the turbo for little to no horsepower loss.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 04:15 AM
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btw the open dump tube wouldn't make power because they're releasing the exhaust gases faster but rather it is not causing turbulence in the downpipe, disrupting flow. It's especially bad in these aftermarket turbo kits where the wastegates dumps the exhaust gas at a 90 degree angle right up next to the turbo causing major turbulence

If you must have a close loop wastegate setup, you must route the dumps at least 18" down from the turbo for little to no horsepower loss.
I don't really follow...you say open w/g dumps wouldn't make power, then you go on to explain why it does make power?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Terrific results...and outstanding tuning by SGP. Open dump tubes are even better than a 3 inch exhuaust. Most of the exhuast is going to come out of the dumptubes...so the effect is just like an open exhuast...very IMPRESSIVE. I think its time for an upgrade.

Congrats, and go out and enjoy the car.

It was getting a lit bit loney in the 600whp club....glad you could join!
Soon my friend .. soon I will be breaking that number...

bahahahah

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:59 AM
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The Unichip does not currently allow 2 boost settings that I know of. Sorry APS owners. I think APS is working on a way to switch between 2 boost maps though.

The run was in 5th gear. SGP says that most tune in 4th gear, but can have problems later in the tune for 5th and 6th. Tuning in 5th eliminates this problem but provides a lower dyno number.

Todd, SGP likes to keep their tuning secrets... seicret. It helps them to keep their stock price valuable. I can say that they tune timing aggressively similar to the way phunk tunes his timing map. The HKS Knock Amp allows you to tune to knock threshold more accurately than other EMS units.

I know why the open wastegates make power, but I am sure others learned from your post. I should've specified how they make poewer in my post.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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I figured it was 5th, since the run was pretty long. With a load based dyno, there should be little difference in power numbers between the gears. On the DynoDynamics dyno we use, the difference in power between 4th and 5th is basically sampling error...nothing meaningful.

Yeah, I doubt Mark or anyone one else for that matter, will give away the precise nature of how the timing was adjusted. That is the tuner's secret, as everyone has their own strategy.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by t32gzz
Todd, SGP likes to keep their tuning secrets... seicret. It helps them to keep their stock price valuable. I can say that they tune timing aggressively similar to the way phunk tunes his timing map. The HKS Knock Amp allows you to tune to knock threshold more accurately than other EMS units.

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i figured as much...
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 002-M-P
I don't really follow...you say open w/g dumps wouldn't make power, then you go on to explain why it does make power?

nah i was reading through the pages and saw somebody write it would make more power because the exhaust gases would come out faster which isn't the reason why it would make more power.. it's the other reason i put.. sorry for the confusion
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Originally Posted by accordfreak
nah i was reading through the pages and saw somebody write it would make more power because the exhaust gases would come out faster which isn't the reason why it would make more power.. it's the other reason i put.. sorry for the confusion
its all good
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by t32gzz
Todd, SGP likes to keep their tuning secrets... seicret. It helps them to keep their stock price valuable. I can say that they tune timing aggressively similar to the way phunk tunes his timing map. The HKS Knock Amp allows you to tune to knock threshold more accurately than other EMS units.
Show me your timing map, and I will show you mine
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Tim, thanx for the ride today......wow, this guy is driving a beast~!!! Now all you need to do is buy a pair of slicks everyday, and your set...lol, man much props, You guys got to see tims ride for yourself, and feel it, and hear that beast . I doesnt sound like a Z, its hard to explain?? A freakin.....damn i still dont know, ITS LOUD~!!!!!!! I still got whiplash

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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LOL....*JK* This is the 5th car over 600 RWHP on pump gas from our stable alone so, I am sure there are others out that we do not hear about... Actually all of them but 2 are G35's from us.... BUT!!!! I can say one thing.... We have some really.....NICE.... numbers coming soon guy's... Get ready...There are 3 more coming that are going to be just plain NASTY....By the way, the wastegate dumps will be coming with new turbo back downpipes so, that is the reason for the steep price...For the cooling system, we are almost done with a complete upgrade that will take the cars to over 850...give me a little while to breathe & I will post some more info along with pics... SGP has 15 new ITEMS coming for the 350 & G35's.... I will post some info ASAP...We are really busy right now & now are trying to get ready for the Hurricane heading our way....

Thanks for the props guy's...

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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oh man i cant wait to find out what SGP is coming out with..breathe! and type faster! lol
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Sounds good, Mark. I may be bringing my Z to you in the next 3-4 of months for FCON and tuning.

Oh and I think we may have that lost clutch issue worked out with the shipper, I'll be sure to let you know what happens.

Chris
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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Default Chris, Sounds good.....

& you have NO IDEA how happy I am to hear that about the clutch.... Yes, PLEASE let me know....

Mark
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark-SGP
By the way, the wastegate dumps will be coming with new turbo back downpipes so, that is the reason for the steep price...
Mark
How long does it take to fabricate the open wastegates and what is the usual install price if TT kit is already installed? Will the car require a new dyno tune after the install?
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 06:09 AM
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Charles... we will talk soon I am sure.

Thanks Joey. Glad you enjoyed the ride.

I know what is coming Mark, and tell Shawn I am not racing his crazy a$$.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Thumbs up TIM!!!! Shhhhhhh!!!!......LOL..... I will tell him..

BUT, he is just one.... We should have one done soon... then another, then Shawn's....He will be last and prolly the craziest..LOL...

Jorge, We can do the dumps in 1-2 days & YES, it will definately need to be re-tuned... It will move the whole VE table... You will definately like the boost curve as well.....LOL...

EVERYONE!! Due to the hurricane we will be gone from Thursday - Monday the 26th.... please bare with us, we have had to move the whole shop & leave. Hopefully we will be back in store on Monday....I will try to keep everyone informed while I am on the road....Right now it has taken me 1 hour to get 12 miles home... This sucks...

If anyone can help me spread the word of what is going on, I would appreciate it....I am sure there will be people wondering where we are..

Sharif, I need to get with you on Monday as well.....

Peace, We are OUT!!

Mark

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark-SGP-

If anyone can help me spread the word of what is going on, I would appreciate it....I am sure there will be people wondering where we are..

Sharif, I need to get with you on Monday as well.....

Peace, We are OUT!!

Mark
NP Mark, be safe and take care....hopefully the storm blows through without too much issue. We can talk on Monday.
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This is great news. I am eagerly awaiting your products. Keep up the good work. Something tells me the cooling system will be changed to an open style with a breather tank!

Originally Posted by Mark-SGP
...the wastegate dumps will be coming with new turbo back downpipes so, that is the reason for the steep price...For the cooling system, we are almost done with a complete upgrade that will take the cars to over 850...give me a little while to breathe & I will post some more info along with pics... SGP has 15 new ITEMS coming for the 350 & G35's.... I will post some info ASAP...We are really busy right now & now are trying to get ready for the Hurricane heading our way....

Thanks for the props guy's...

Mark
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