Oil Pan Spacer
12-08-2005, 08:20 PM
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I bought a spacer and line kit from Dave a few days ago. Received them very fast and in time to be installed with my kit today and tomorrow. They look great and will save a lot of install time since they eliminate any drilling and tapping.
I'll try and get some pics of them installed before my car is lowered from the rack.
I'll try and get some pics of them installed before my car is lowered from the rack.
12-09-2005, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Meatshackle
I bought a spacer and line kit from Dave a few days ago. Received them very fast and in time to be installed with my kit today and tomorrow. They look great and will save a lot of install time since they eliminate any drilling and tapping.
I'll try and get some pics of them installed before my car is lowered from the rack.
I'll try and get some pics of them installed before my car is lowered from the rack.
12-09-2005, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamic6er
The Turbonetics returns to this location shown in the picture, which is taken from their current online instructions. We have tested the spacer on a Turbonetics kit we installed and it functions 100% properly and has no flooding of the bearings.
Both Greddy and APS return to these points.
In regards to the Vortech return I disagree 100% that the oil return must be that high. What I will do is contact the technical department at Vortech and get a written response as to what they think. If they will not support the application then I will note this blantantly on all documentation and ads so there is no confusion. The oil systems of the Votechs and the Turbo kits are essentially the same in regards to feed line size and return line size. They run the same pressures on the feed line. But as I said Vortech will be our final answer.
Both Greddy and APS return to these points.
In regards to the Vortech return I disagree 100% that the oil return must be that high. What I will do is contact the technical department at Vortech and get a written response as to what they think. If they will not support the application then I will note this blantantly on all documentation and ads so there is no confusion. The oil systems of the Votechs and the Turbo kits are essentially the same in regards to feed line size and return line size. They run the same pressures on the feed line. But as I said Vortech will be our final answer.
06-06-2006, 11:20 AM
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Guys this issue is controversial. Many reputable people will say yes you can drain in to the spacer many will say above the pan. Do some research and come up with your own conclusion. Ive had my return line going to my oil pan spacer since day 1 no issues...
07-18-2006, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Guys this issue is controversial. Many reputable people will say yes you can drain in to the spacer many will say above the pan. Do some research and come up with your own conclusion. Ive had my return line going to my oil pan spacer since day 1 no issues...
I believe I read somewhere that the spacers arent good for the vortech and MAY cause blower failure and will void your warrenty with them.
07-19-2006, 06:04 AM
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That's completely incorrect. What's bad for Vortech SCs is tapping into the spacer itself and connecting the oil drain from the blower through it. The drain has to enter the oil pan above the level of the oil because it's a passive system. Any non-tapped oil pan spacer will be fine and will give your blower cooler and fresher oil as well as insurance against oil loss leading to oil starvation.
07-19-2006, 09:11 AM
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No. When you use an untapped spacer you still tap into the upper oil pan for the blower return. It's exactly the same as without a spacer. The spacer goes underneath the upper oil pan and has no effect on drainage into the upper pan. You want fast drainage to allow the blower bearings to be sprayed without any backup. If there is any backup, it restricts the oil coming into the blower and will lead to rapid meltdown.
07-19-2006, 07:53 PM
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this makes no sense to me.
follow me on this example:
take a pitcher half full of water.
then, take a 2 foot length of hose. hold the hose above the pitcher of water (vortech method). now, pour water from a glass into the hose....and letting it drain into the pitcher.
NOw,.........
place the hose into the pitcher so that the bottom of the hose is resting at the bottom of the pitcher(AAM method). Again, pour water from a glass into the hose......and watch the pitcher fill up with water just as fast as using the other method.
Now, seriously, what is Vortech really saying???
follow me on this example:
take a pitcher half full of water.
then, take a 2 foot length of hose. hold the hose above the pitcher of water (vortech method). now, pour water from a glass into the hose....and letting it drain into the pitcher.
NOw,.........
place the hose into the pitcher so that the bottom of the hose is resting at the bottom of the pitcher(AAM method). Again, pour water from a glass into the hose......and watch the pitcher fill up with water just as fast as using the other method.
Now, seriously, what is Vortech really saying???
07-20-2006, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
this makes no sense to me.
follow me on this example:
take a pitcher half full of water.
then, take a 2 foot length of hose. hold the hose above the pitcher of water (vortech method). now, pour water from a glass into the hose....and letting it drain into the pitcher.
NOw,.........
place the hose into the pitcher so that the bottom of the hose is resting at the bottom of the pitcher(AAM method). Again, pour water from a glass into the hose......and watch the pitcher fill up with water just as fast as using the other method.
Now, seriously, what is Vortech really saying???
follow me on this example:
take a pitcher half full of water.
then, take a 2 foot length of hose. hold the hose above the pitcher of water (vortech method). now, pour water from a glass into the hose....and letting it drain into the pitcher.
NOw,.........
place the hose into the pitcher so that the bottom of the hose is resting at the bottom of the pitcher(AAM method). Again, pour water from a glass into the hose......and watch the pitcher fill up with water just as fast as using the other method.
Now, seriously, what is Vortech really saying???
Not exactly what will happen..It's all about differential pressures at the hose outlet...In your second experiment the pressure at the bottom of the pitcher (hose outlet) will be higher than the hose outlet is in your first experiment which is at atmospheric..The weight/density/height
of the water adds to the atmospheric pressure and results in a greter pressure at the pitchers bottom in experiment 2. This higher pressure must be overcome for the water to enter the pitcher...
07-20-2006, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jpc350z
Not exactly what will happen..It's all about differential pressures at the hose outlet...In your second experiment the pressure at the bottom of the pitcher (hose outlet) will be higher than the hose outlet is in your first experiment which is at atmospheric..The weight/density/height
of the water adds to the atmospheric pressure and results in a greter pressure at the pitchers bottom in experiment 2. This higher pressure must be overcome for the water to enter the pitcher...
of the water adds to the atmospheric pressure and results in a greter pressure at the pitchers bottom in experiment 2. This higher pressure must be overcome for the water to enter the pitcher...
If the oil were a thick, sludge-like consistancy, there could be problems; we are talking about a very viscous fluid. granted, it is not as viscous as water,
but still vwery viscous, nonetheless.
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