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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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Default 2 gauges to go with the Turbonetics kit

I am planning on getting 2 gauges w/ the A-pillar pod. 1st one is obviously the boost gauge. Trying to decide A/F (aka the light show, lol) or the EGT. Maybe the oil temperture... I don't know, just trying to figure out the 2nd one.

Just wondering what gauge setups you guys are running and why.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Between A/F and EGT, EGT for sure....though its not 100% ideal to use a single EGT on a V6, it will give better feedback than a basic A/F. You might also want consider using the HKS A/F Knock Amp and then get a Oil Temp gauge for the pod instead....just a thought
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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i have a 3 gauge pod and chose a/f, boost, and fuel pressure. i felt those were atleast the minimum i would need to have to keep decent tabs on things that could pop the motor. i have seen gauges that monitor 2 different things at once in the same 2 1/16th inch gauge face if you want to add more functions in less space, unfortunately i don't remember the manufacturer.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 12:42 AM
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wideband afr and boost. There is a stock oil pressure gauge in the dash.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 05:31 AM
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You may want to get an oil temp gauge. If you are running a TN kit without any oil system upgrades (pan/spaces, cooler) you may want to keep an eye on hot hot your oil is.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
You may want to get an oil temp gauge. If you are running a TN kit without any oil system upgrades (pan/spaces, cooler) you may want to keep an eye on hot hot your oil is.
There's no basis for that, unless he is taking the car to the track and running it hard for extended periods of time. You certainly wouldn't need to be concerned with heat buildup for street driving or even the 1/4 mile. Then again, with any FI application you would want more than the stock temp gauge if you're doing laps at the track...
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 06:03 AM
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There's no basis for that, unless he is taking the car to the track and running it hard for extended periods of time. You certainly wouldn't need to be concerned with heat buildup for street driving or even the 1/4 mile. Then again, with any FI application you would want more than the stock temp gauge if you're doing laps at the track...
I am a bit paranoid about the thermal issues with any kind of FI on the Z. Actually, from what I undertsand he may just bolt up the APS or PE oil pan and be done with it. But I would not run the stock oil system on FI w/out monitoring it. But once again, I overprepare for everything....
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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I am a bit paranoid about the thermal issues with any kind of FI on the Z. Actually, from what I understand he may just bolt up the APS or PE oil pan and be done with it. But I would not run the stock oil system on FI w/out monitoring it. But once again, I over prepare for everything....
Yeah, taking extra precautions can never hurt. The APS oil pan looks like a good option, but won't be quite on par with an active oil cooler. The problem with an oil cooler is finding somewhere to fit it behind the bumper...

As far as the turbonetics turbo placement is concerned, I decided to grab a vented hood and the difference in underhood temps is now in-perceivable.

Now back to the original topic... If he only has room for two gauges, I can't see dropping boost or afr/egt for a temp gauge. However, an oil temp gauge would be a great choice for a third gauge if he chose to go that route.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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Ditto for only two spots a boost and wideband would be my first recommendations. Not every one is familiar with EGT gauges and how to read them accurately. Its not a knock on anyone its just the facts. I would recommend the wideband becuase it straight up tells you the AFR and is easier for first time tuners/turbo owners. As for oil temps ANY boosted car is going to have increased oil temps over stock. Its a simple matter of physics. Engine oil is passing through a turbo bearing that is VERY hot and being sent back to the pan. However even with no oil cooling items in place my oil temp is not much higher then stock 200-220 (on the turbo feed). Thats well withing acceptable parameters. And I agree that an active oil cooler would be night and day batter then just a finned pan.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Yeah, taking extra precautions can never hurt. The APS oil pan looks like a good option, but won't be quite on par with an active oil cooler. The problem with an oil cooler is finding somewhere to fit it behind the bumper...

As far as the turbonetics turbo placement is concerned, I decided to grab a vented hood and the difference in underhood temps is now in-perceivable.

Now back to the original topic... If he only has room for two gauges, I can't see dropping boost or afr/egt for a temp gauge. However, an oil temp gauge would be a great choice for a third gauge if he chose to go that route.

Agreed!
BTW, what do you think about cutting out the side reflectors on bumper to open inlets for air and set the coolers behind these. You can run a tranny cooler on one side and the oil cooler on the other, no?
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
Agreed!
BTW, what do you think about cutting out the side reflectors on bumper to open inlets for air and set the coolers behind these. You can run a tranny cooler on one side and the oil cooler on the other, no?
Thats exactly what I'm going to do but I'm just going to run an oil cooler and a power steering cooler.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Thats exactly what I'm going to do but I'm just going to run an oil cooler and a power steering cooler.
Let us know how it goes. Pictures won't hurt either
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
Let us know how it goes. Pictures won't hurt either
I will when its done....I plan on installing that and an oil pan spacer at the same time.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Well I have the AEM Wideband, EGT, and Boost... Though ever since getting the E-Manage Ultimate... Datalogging for the most part takes the place of the gauges LOL.

But I would think Wideband A/F (so you know how rich, or lean), and Boost (so you know you don't have any leaks, or what not)... Because like said before EGT while important might be read or placed differently which would result in reading it differently and inconsistant.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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EGT and wideband is somewhat useless Wideband is usually more important along with boost. egt is important but not nearly like the Wideband

installing DFI boost and Lm1 wideband and gauge
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