Never Mind,

It is I - the Post ***** again. LOL.

Safely, the JWT when tuned on Pump (91 octane) is very cool at 8.5 lbs of boost with timing retarded and the Det-Sensor installed. Now, we have turned the boost on Stock Blocks (ON THE TRACK) with 110 octane - must be using race fuel or seriously retarding timing to 10.5-11 lbs of boost. But this is all on the user. I feel safe with turning the boost up on race fuel because we are monitoring the cars temps, oil, and pressure after 20 minutes of running on the track.

NOTE: If you haven't used high-octane fuel - The higher octane decreases detonation and burns way cooler reducing heat so we can run the car on the track. We do try to keep our shifts on the track less than 5500. RPMs create even more heat.

If you watch the video at
http://violentracing.com/Videos/new11_2005.htm

You will see my see Roadster for the most part running on a stock motor (from the in car shots) at 10.5 lbs of boost and eating up everything in an advanced - NON FULL RACE class at Big Willow Springs just taken November 2005.

Hope I have answered your question. NOTE: The JWT waste gates are about 7 lbs, safely daily drive at 8.5 lbs making about 380 WHP and just under 400 lbs of torque.

This is real and we consistently can make this the case.

Please PM if you have any other questions.

Michael

www.ViolentRacing.com

 

I am a Post *****...Thanks Amy Croft for my new Nickname.

LOL

 

Going to Dyno the car on Wed it looks like. For those wondering what you'll get out of the box, I'll do a baseline before I up the boost.

Michael a post ***** ... LOL. That guy doesn't even have time to sleep. I'm surprised he's posting as much as he is now.

 

My Vortech uses the SpiltSecond . User friendly yes . With a kit that is steep in price , you would think they would include something that had a little more control over things . And its only available though you and installed by you . So your market range is limited to your area , or some one that doesnt mined driving to you or pay extra for you to come to them . I think most guys will wait till its available to every one....when every that is

 

Michael, does the kit come complete with everything needed out of the box? I am wondering because APS TT kit comes with everything which is a plus for me.
oh, and as booger said, restricting the installing to only you will definetly get you few customers

 

I think Jim Wolf is putting the restriction on VRT because he doesn't want to officially release the kit yet.

37 posts and you are already being called a post ***** Mike? Geez, what does that make me lol?

 

I'm getting into this thread late, but nonetheless here I am.

Like anyone, we were all waiting to see what the Jim Wolfe kit was going to be like and I'd like to refresh everyone's memory on a couple things before I even get back to reading what's in this thread.

I was in the Turbo Shoot Out with Sport Z Magazine. There were 2 groups in this particular setup where there were "customer" cars and "manufacturer" cars.

These groups were considered seperately, as it was undertsood that the manufacturer cars would most likely be delivered with a few more tricks up their sleeves then supposed customer cars BUT they were all supposed to show up with "customer installation and configuration setups" so that it would be a "fair" representation of what to expect from the kit, and less dependant on what else was done to the car, or any "special" conditions that may or may not exist with a customer's car/setup.

I did everything I was supposed to, including the time I was supposed to show up, arrive with little to no fuel, and let Sport Z check my car out without any interuptions, or special adjustments as to how my car is generally setup.

I personally did not witness this, so I can not stand behind it 100% but what I can tell you is that the other people, in my group, that arrived earlier than I did, watched as the manfuactuer cars were checked out, that there was something "suspicious" about what went on with the JWT car.

At a minimum, it had to be tuned "down" from whatever tuning it had before it arrived, DURING the dyno runs as there was "something" or "pinging" going on.

Additionally, the people that were there all seemed to agree, at that time, (I don't know about now) that the exahust from the JWT car was amazingly charged and seemed to have something more than 91 pump fuel as requested.

In either case, my car with the APS TT, with a conservative tune, due to that I drive it daily, track occasionaly, dragged 1/4 over 20 times and 1/8 about 10 times and many back-to-back), and flog regularly did nearly as well as the Greddy and JWT kit with all the advantages those cars had.

You know the Greddy car was their ringer, and if JWT had re-tune and did anything with their fuel, it's no wonder they did as well as they did.

I would also like to say that JWT has stated, repeatedly, they are delivering a kit with quality and safety in mind, and I do not know if that has changed but the numbers their car put down that day, is not what JWT intends to suggest to their customers as "normal".

So as I mentioned, I need to go read this thread a little more and see what I value I can find in it and I will be back.

 

REMINDER:

This thread is about Mike's car and his JWT TT kit...

 

I am just now getting involved in this thread, and I have already apologized for my lateness.

I am currently reviewing this thread, and this product a little further than I had previously.

I do not know what your HorsePower/Torque goals are, or what the usage is going to be but I would personally like to recommend against anything to do with the Greddy kit.

I can't recomend against the JWT at this time, as I am still reviewing it, but I would confidentely say that the JWT kit HAS GOT TO BE A MILLION times better than the Greddy when considering overall quality and delivery of performance.

However, as I spent 9 months from thought to installation considering what FI solution to use, and I ended up with the APS TT, I can easily recommend you that or even the APS Single Turbo (ST) well over the Greddy and most likely over the JWT as well.

Feel free to check around the board for APS, you can find my thread, and many others.

My advice to you is to looking what components are in each kit, what the differences are in those components/kits and see what is missing or needed from each to b considered "complete".

Don't solely look at what the kit delivers performance wise, you also need to look at WHEN it's going to give it to you, and "how" it's going to accomplish what they claim on YOUR car specifically.

None of these kits are "set it and forget it" like our friends at Ronco.

This is the most important piece of advice, I or any enthusist can give you that actually put any thought into what they did with their car.

Something else I would like to add, to this post (yes I came back and edited this after reading a few more things) there was something about not wanting XXX HP or a 1/4 monster...

Let me suggest a better way to think about this particular thought.

Instead of ONLY concerning yourslf with what you dont WANT/NEED now... Consider what your options are going to be with ANY kit you purchase, and what will it take to get "more" than you WANT or NEED now.

My car is conservatively putting down 415RWHP and 338TRQ and the car runs great and will knock the socks of anyone regardless how fast/powerfull your car is/isn't.

Before I went with my APS TT, I was going to go with a Stillen SC. (don't forget this is nearly 2 years ago from when I started looking into this) and I thought "hey that is a solid product, and is going to give me more than I want or NEED right now, and I don't think I am going to really WANT or NEED more than that.

I quickly realized that was a poor line of thinking, and decided to go TT, and then ended up with APS because of what the kit does NOW, what it can easily do with just some tuning and fuel, and what it can easily due if I want to do way more than I got now.

So the point here is if I would have gotten an SC I would have been more than pleased for an unknown period of time. If I had decided to increase what the SC could do, it was going to get fairly expensive without too much in gains to consider reasonable.

So yes I spent more to start with on a TT kit, but I can go the whole range of power of 350 to 500 RWHP without too much more expense or effort.

So that is something else to consider

Good luck!

 

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Don't know if you are monitoring this thread, but if you are, you will want to look at the couple of recent posts I made, in this thread.

Main point is, I was going SC myself, and I learned what the difference is between SC and Turbo, and for me, because of my goals and driving habbits, I new SC was not going to last for satisfaction...

In regards to maintenance, there is less maintance with turbos than with SC because the SC's have a few more moving parts and sometimes belts involed whereas turbos do not.

You have to change your oil religiously, (you should anyways) or work with your oil to meet your needs. 3000 miles isn't for everyone.

What you have to do with any FI solution, and your car regardless of FI or MODS, is to check your hoses and connections occasionaly as well as leaks.

You're always montioring your engine vitals, right? You need to do it that much more when pushing your motor/car or taking advantage of whatever mods/fi solutions you have.

You can do this when you are getting your oil changed, or if you are a DIYer, then check it then.

Also something that was already mentioned, but reminded me of it is NOISE, something that people consider or don't consider is what noise/sound is your car going to make when you modify it or considering anything with FI.

I think SC makes all kinds of noises and sounds are cool if that is what you want.

 

In general, this is complete B.S. and nothing less.

Unless an SC is setup in someway, with special gearing, or god only knows what amazing technology, since an SC is based on the engine RPM, it can only deliver what the engine is starting with.

Unless you are comparing a typical SC vs some massive ST or TT turbo setup, which due to their design and GOALS, I can't see how an SC can have less lag, or lesser power curve than turbo.

Sheesh....

 

As you know, I chose Turbo over SC, so I am with you on the base principal.

However, I would like to say that SC, ST, and TT all have their place.

Chosing any of those should be based on needs and goals and usage, not their merits, pros, cons.

If someone wants just a bit more, more often, there is nothing wrong with an SC, as they are a solid technology, and they have some high delivery options, when configured as such and on a motor than can work with them.

Again, as you can see from my recent posts in this thread, you have to consider many things, and you can't "just do it" based on what anyone tells you.

YOU MUST DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK, AND CONSIDER WHAT YOU WANT WHEN YOU ARE MODIFYING YOUR CAR.

DO NOT JUST DO WHAT THE LAST GUY DID BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHY THAT GUY DID IT OR WHAT HE CONSIDERED BEFORE HE DID IT.

 

You posted this after My First post into this thread, which involved MY APS TT KIT and HIS JWT TT KIT so in case I am mistaken, my post was ON TOPIC.

I gotta tell ya, no thread on this board, or on any board is dedicated to anyone purpose.

I also gotta tell ya that I think it's great that Mike gotta JWT TT as I said in my post, I expect nothing but the best in quality from it, as it's JIM WOLFE TECHNOLOGY!

Now after your post, I made about 3-4 posts (possibly including this one).

I have read the entire thread. Perhaps this thread should be renamed, moved, split, called "Everyone say congrats to mike for getting a JWT TT" and then that is what this thread is.

Whenever a new product/technology/setup is discssed, it invites questions and comparisson, and sometimes down right highly sophisticated conversations, so again my first post, and all most posts in this thread are ON TOPIC unless you do what I said about renaming the thread and then deleting anything else.

I also gotta say unless this thread was designed for "congratulating mike on his JWT TT" which in fact I will now officially say "Congratulations Mike on getting a JWT TT!" aside from my posts, and about 10 others there was absolutely nothing of use in this thread aside from congratulating Mike on getting his JWT TT.

The point of this board and other boards is to help people do what's best for them and that is what I did today, in this thread, on this board as a few others have done as well, in this thread, on this board, and many other threads, on many other boards.

'nuff said

good luck

and CONGRATULATIONS MIKE ON GETTING YOUR JWT TT!

You rock buddy!

 

^^^ I can't speak for Mike, but I just wouldn't want my thread turning into another turbo debate.

 

+1000 !!!!!
We all know there have been enough of those in this section in the last couple months to last for awhile!!

 

Dude, mraturbo is VRT. Same guy. He owns VRT. He had to start a new username when he just became a sponsor. And who cares how many posts he puts up per day. he is giving quality info on the JWT kit. I say the more the merrier. I don't mean to offend you, but why would you bash someone for posting messages on a message board built for posting messages?

 

Alpine,

Thanks for the valuable information. Would love to meet up with you and your car at a road racetrack and really put things into perspective.

Please PM me if you want to know our 2006 schedule. We haven't yet set all of the dates but I do know we will be at Laguna Seca in a few weeks weather permitting.

Warmly,

Michael

VRT
www.ViolentRacing.com

 

I actually started this post in order to inform people of what to look for in the JWT kit. As I have a "prototype" kit which has yet to be "gone over" by Jim because unfortunately for Jim he has been sick, I haven't been able to report anything as of yet, but hopefully as I said earlier that will change on Wed.

Actually Alpine I agree with you on what you are saying as far as posts getting off topic. It happens rather easily. Lord knows I've done it, but you seem to be a knowledgeable guy and I'm always down for good info.

 

Never Mind,

Thanks for the EKG.

It is unfortunate about having to police my number of post since I really never post. NOTE: I usually don't sit down long enough to make 2-3 posts a day. That said, I surf around and make post all at once. Guess I need to make a lil' more time to post instead of building Cool Cars?

As Vision mentioned, I have another username, VRT. Yet, I do have to admit I am not used to all of this Message board etiquette and the entire Do's and Don'ts.

M