I've been trying to figure out which supercharger to get. Stillen is out b/c I have the kinetix ssv, but I'm not sure which I should get get vortech, hks or another system. I've looked through some of the threads and couldn't find a good answer. I'd like to go turbo, but my set up w/exhaust and headers would have to go.

 

I have vortech, so i'll say vortech. Minor problems to begin with, nothing too serious though. Procharger looks like a good system as well. Those are the only 2 superchargers that i'll go with. not interested in HKS or stillen. Turbo i would say turbonetics single turbo because my friend has one on his car and it's fast as you know what. I have vortech, headers, test pipes, borla td exhaust. (tuned) , he has just the turbonetics st and he beats me. not by much, mostly a dead even race but he is ahead.

 

backagain, what's your power and torque output? Any other mods?

 

me with vortech and mods - 7.9 psi - 400 wheel hp and 432 wheel tq,

his with turbonetics no mods - 8.5 psi - 361 wheel hp 380 wheel tq.

 

oh, i also have 3.12 pulley.

 

You mean...400whp/332wtq. Right?

Zquicksilver

 

All the answers are there in the threads, also a lot of OPINIONS...

IMO, there is a well suited FI system for every individual and their particular needs.

The Vortech tuner kit is probably going to fit my needs and budget. Mine is a daily driver and I would like to keep it that way, or at least that way until I floor it in a spirited race. Then I would like some power (but not insane power that requires a built engine). Refer to the graph below...



A well boosted Single Turbo, a SC with some air mods and a base Z. I really don't care to make 380-400wtq below 4000rpm, others do. You can see my point

Zquicksilver

 

What exhaust/headers do you have?

If you go the Turbonetics route, you might be able to keep the headers. If you have a true dual exhaust, you could go with a TT and keep it.

For superchargers I would vote Vortech and HKS in that order.

 

Vortech, very clean looking kit and also comes with the SS box which you can have costumed tuned.

 

that's a nice graph


yeah if you get 3.91 gears, it'll make the low end power that much better anyway even though it won't make the actual engine work any harder. Then when you go to shift, the rpm's will be higher than if you had longer or stock gearing, so you'll stay right there in the peak torque range with the vortech

having a light clutch will make you drive a few rpm's higher than normal and many people are now raising the idle to around 1000 rpms with vortechs. To me it sounds like a winning combination for balance where all the parts work together.

You can always make more power with the vortech also, just get some cams, headers, smaller pulley etc, and maybe eventually a built engine and bigger blower


the turbo will be way more fun driving normal though.

 

Procharger... Great kit and looks awesom plus have noticed some big numbers from the kit.

 

Thanks sentry... I haven't seen a graph like it, so I made it up based on three various dyno charts. It's my assumption that a lot of people considering FI don't realize the power they'll drive under during normal conditions. Thought this would help clarify things.

I'm also pretty comfortable running roughly (220whp/280wtq max) on a stock engine during normal/avg. driving conditions. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping she'll go 150k plus like my last ST_ZX did from 86. I drove them about the same... a spirited race hear and there, ok, a lot of spirited races

Zquicksilver

 

Stillen...ugly hood , low power ,locked down ECU [? not sure ] , good trq.

HKS....low power , dinky intercooler , Locked ECU , self contained and cooled oil system

ATI Procharger ...No timing control , good power , self contained oil system

Vortech....Good and bad points on oil system , you have to tap upper oil pan , you change the oil every 3000 miles , Good power , blower unit is the most upgradable of all the others , comes with a piggyback ECU that can be tuned at any good shop

On power alone , you have to go with ATI or Vortech

 

I have alphawerks headers, borla TD, Kinetix ssv and high flow cats.

 

You can keep it all with the ATI , Vortech , and the HKS

 

Note: We recently dynoed a Procharger on a DYNOJET right before pulling it out to build the motor and JWT TT the car. The Procharger on the stock motor with stock system made 316 WHP and 300 FT/LB Torque. Stillen Stage 3 kits we have had made 320-325 WHP and about the same torque. Stillen is a negative becasue the hood. The Procharger definitely needed mods to make it fit, cut cut-slice slice.

If folks are easily making 350 plus with the Vortech, then that would be interesting. Otherwise, I would go Twin Turbo for you can easily make 380-400 WHP and torque at low boost on a stock motor with pump gas.

My $.02

 

You may have had a ATI that dynoed at 316whp . But your comparing it to a stage 3 Stillen and the ugly hood . The Vortech with his mods will dyno between 320 and 350whp out of the box on a load base dyno [ no DynoJet correction ]. I dynoed [ Mustang dyno ] 319whp out of the box with simular mods to him , with a AT5. 350whp with tuning an 3.12 pulley . The guy asked about SC's . He didnt asked to be sold on a Turbo set up . My $.02

 

Wasn't ******* Procharger, just sharing our experience.

 

oops, yea, 342 is what i meant to put. my bad ,

 

Dreamworks, ok, just a joke for those that have been here for a while....