what's the warranty good for? what would go bad? the turbo? that's prolly it

 

the tune, anything with the kit, etc.

TN's warranty pretty much covers the kit no questions asked for a year. everything. even if it was wrecked in an accident.

 

Thanks for pumping this APS thread full or your TN pollution

Does the TN warranty cover this?
TURBONECTICS KIT blows my vq@8psI

or this?
Turbonetics.. BAD rod bearing!!

enough of the TN vs APS BS

If you want to do it right:
APS ST kit - 5800
APS ST exhaust - 995
Installation - Approx 1500
Wideband AFR - 400
Boost gauge - 150
Clutch - 1000-2000 depending on which you choose

I know SGP is an APS dealer, they are in Houston.

Another dealer somewhat around your area:
MZM Int

good luck with your setup

 

No, they don't cover blown engines due to oil starvation.

There have been APS ST's with blown motors as well. Problem is, there is nowhere near the amount of the APS kits on the road, and people haven't chose to make the problems public. There are over 350 TN ST kits on the streets now. How many APS ST's have been sold in the US? I guarantee that if you break down the statistics, the % of kits sold to blown motors will be roughly the same, if not less % blown TN kits...

To the OP: Get the APS kit if you'd like, but I'll guarantee the TN stage 1.5 kit is going to blow away the APS kit as far as "completeness" is concerned. It will also allow for considerably more power and allow for further upgrade options (such as the stage 2 kit).





Zivman: I don't care to argue APS vs TN either, but you have a habit of twisting half truths and plain lies to promote their kit. I also don't really care if the OP buys APS or TN. I really don't. I just wish you'd unwrap your lips from APSs' shaft and stop bashing everyone that DOESN'T own an APS kit.

I'll leave it at that.

 

(John 14:6) Jesus said, "APS is the way, the truth and the life: no one can come to the Father(God)(in Heaven), but by APS."




I do wish, however, that there was a local TN around here so I could ride/drive one for comparison

 

Likewise, but with the APS ST...

 

I think they'd prolly feel damn-near identical... LOL

 

more n' likely, maybe the TN gets a leg up on spool by a couple hundred rpm, but otherwise they prolly feel the same. not like you'd feel any difference under full boost anyways, they both go ape****

imo the TN is more blingin tho

 

the bottom line is here is that when you take a car that's not ment for FI and go FI on it, you will stress the motor ALOT more. It all comes down to proper tuning. As long as the A/F is flat along the rpm curve, it should be pretty reliable and this is capable with just about any FI kit out there. It's all about how you go about it and how much you're willing to spend. Nobody would design and sell a kit to blow up motors.

 

Actually from what I hear the gt35r builds boost slightly smoother, and maybe even 100-200rpms sooner. The turbonetics 60-1 hits boost harder and really slams you back. Both kits on stock manifolds will be at full boost before 3500 rmps, and both kits will get you to roughly the same power levels out of the box.

This is just from what I've heard from folks who have experienced both kits. Again, I'd like to experience this first hand...

 

There was a local to me that had a TN setup - too bad he blew his motor or I would have taken it for a spin.



I just love the pot calling the kettle black

 

APS ST 4psi at 2500rpm, TN ST 1.5psi 2500rpm. I found this info yesterday reading up Peter's long thread.... So, seems like APS builds up boost ALOT faster than TN.

I do agree with you on the BLINGIN' factor~ I wish I had a shiny snail shell in my engine bay.. Hahah~

 

I have an APS TT, but I think the Turbonetics kit is really awesome as well. I'm not biased because of what's in my car.

When people make huge financial decisions on stuff like this, they'll do whatever it takes to convince 'themselves' that they made the best decision possible. After that, they'll usually try to convince everyone around them as well.

I think they're both great kits.

 

What thread? If you think anything that Peter posts isn't biased and solely aimed at selling APS kits, you're fooling yourself. I won't believe any comparisons unless they're provided by a neutral source under comparable conditions.

You do understand how quickly this car revs to 3000 rpms while wide open, right? The response on my kit feels instant unless I'm doing something like passing someone in 4th gear at 50mph...

 

There's truth to that. However, I should be telling everyone here that the TN kit sucks --- I wish I was still the only one around with this kit!

 

You're dead right the GT 35 ball bearing turbo will spool much faster than a old Garrett design O trim turbine wheel.

 

So is there a full component breakdown yet? I'm curious as to how complete the 1.5 kit is now that you mention it.

 

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hah, thanks for showing me yer setup and talking me into getting it Craig

I'm on my way to pick up the INGS LX kit like yours, and the same 19" wheels too. We'll be twins!