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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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i have a tn kit with relfash. no problems so far with that but i just had a problem with a weld cracking. Let me give you a peice of advice, before you put the uppipe on there. The uppipe welds near the wastegate should be welded stronger. Take it to a shop and tell them to add more welds ontop of the tn welds. Youll deff thank me later, i garauntee it. I just picked up another uppipe because my other one cracked right at the weld. and im most likely gonna get bigger welds put on this. Just a tip

oh and lastly, you shoulda bought another kit. APS or something cuz TN kinda blows in many aspects.
So you are bitter because of your attitude and how you tried to con your way into getting free parts from us. We are smart enough not to fall for cons like people like yourself Eddie Ghani. Your simply have exactly no credibility on this forum. You b1tched and cried to Vinny Ten to the point they were going to refuse your business. You purchased a used car with the kit installed not knowing exaclty what the previous owner did with the car and you blame us for that. Anyone who has any doubts on what kind of crap you pull can read this thread below.....
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/334821-used-turbonetics-kit-please-help-5.html

I have all the emails you sent around so unless you want to get PWNED again I would keep your pie hole closed......don't make me post them.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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So you are bitter because of your attitude and how you tried to con your way into getting free parts from us. We are smart enough not to fall for cons like people like yourself Eddie Ghani. Your simply have exactly no credibility on this forum. You b1tched and cried to Vinny Ten to the point they were going to refuse your business. You purchased a used car with the kit installed not knowing exaclty what the previous owner did with the car and you blame us for that. Anyone who has any doubts on what kind of crap you pull can read this thread below.....
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=334821&page=5

I have all the emails you sent around so unless you want to get PWNED again I would keep your pie hole closed......don't make me post them.
dude, we are on the net and 3000 miles away, i could care less if you emabarrase me. Nobody here knows me anyways and im probably never gonna meet any of you guys. Post them you unwarrantying maniac, lol. Here, matter of fact, let me tell everyone how i begged vinny like a baby to sell me the pipe after i disrespected him one day. lol. do i give a damn. go grow some pubes bro. are you a business man or a little kid. i think my 14 year old bro is more mature. See OP, this is the man you're buying kits from. Idk wether to shake my head or LAWL.

i dont wanna get this guys thread closed so im not gonna argue anymore.

but to the OP, get a TN kit but not one used. If those weak welds break, you're paying. I mean, even with a new one, if it breaks, you're still paying for labor and you're car still aint moving nowhere. Oh well, guess thats worth the "customer service". lol. Go get yourself a APS and call it a day.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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Nobody here knows me anyways and im probably never gonna meet any of you guys.
I would assume no one wants the unpleasure to meet you anyways.....
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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I would assume no one wants the unpleasure to meet you anyways.....
alright then, lets just keep it at that we are all happy. Im going to bed cuz i gotta install this freaking pipe tomorow. this install will be fun indeed. Im gonna buy myself a couple of bandaids first. lol.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by carfi179
Greddy evo2 w/TN kit sucks, my TN kit is choking on my Greddy evo2 but sounds clean.
I think the EVO2 breathes just fine on my setup, I hit over 400whp last november at 8.7psi

BTW I bought my kit BRAND new in the box, but 2nd hand from someone who decided not to install it. A mounting tab broke off due to an accident creating an exhaust leak and TN STILL covered me after I explained my situation. They're customer service gets a BIG thumbs up from me.

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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 350 Rookie
i have a tn kit with reflash. no problems so far with that but i just had a problem with a weld cracking. Let me give you a piece of advice, before you put the uppipe on there. The uppipe welds near the wastegate should be welded stronger. Take it to a shop and tell them to add more welds ontop of the tn welds. Youll deff thank me later, i garauntee it. I just picked up another uppipe because my other one cracked right at the weld. and im most likely gonna get bigger welds put on this. Just a tip

oh and lastly, you shoulda bought another kit. APS or something cuz TN kinda blows in many aspects.
Wow TN kit blows huh, well I guess the 500+ WHP I will have soon is weak not to mention the fact that I got a new turbo serviced from TN for free. It's one thing to change the topic of someone elses thread but I don't get why you have to provide misinformation. To the OP I had the reflash for a year with many modified parts and I was quite happy. My A/F was 10.9 - 1. A little rich for me but the car was running cool, I did not have any carbon build up and when ever I checked my plugs there were healthy.

Will you have some type of mechanical or electrical failure in the future? Possibly, in fact I would bet on it but that's the game you play when you want F/I power. The things that will help you is don't lie or act like a child. In addition TN can cover whatever they want outside the written warranty, they are not obligated to but it has happened and if you can't afford to replace parts when they fail this is the wrong hobby for you.

And uhhh Spell check if free last time I checked.

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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 05:47 AM
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And uhhh Spell check if free last time I checked.
ooops, i forgot i writing an essay.

as for the problems. Search turbonetics and search other single turbo kits. You'll find more threads with problems with turbonetics than any other kit. and why do you think theres always a few turbonetics kits up for sale in the classifieds section. I see maybe 1 aps kit, 2 greddy and then like 4 turbonetics.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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I don't need to search, I have been on the boards before the TN was released. I bought my kit right when it came out and if there are so many problems with the kit why did you buy it?
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 350 Rookie
ooops, i forgot i writing an essay.

as for the problems. Search turbonetics and search other single turbo kits. You'll find more threads with problems with turbonetics than any other kit. and why do you think theres always a few turbonetics kits up for sale in the classifieds section. I see maybe 1 aps kit, 2 greddy and then like 4 turbonetics.
You FAIL to realize that for evey 3-4 members out there with a TN kit there is 1 with a Greddy or APS, etc etc. It's a relatively inexpensive kit with decent potential and it easy to install, which lends itself, MORE THAN OTHERS KITS, to be prone to INSTALLER ERROR for a DYI project.

And most FS threads containing TN kits are people who want to go for big built numbers beyond 500whp.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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OP, honestly, i wouldnt pay $5k+ for a kit and go half *** on the tune. ive seen people get up to another 50whp with a piggyback + tune.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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I had NOP ISSUES with the reflash, however I had big issues with the reflash then a UTEC on that. Reflashed the ECU back to stock and it just some slight hic-ups. IMO, UTEC's are glitchy. If your happy with 390ish HP, you'll be happy with the reflash only.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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I had NOP ISSUES with the reflash, however I had big issues with the reflash then a UTEC on that. Reflashed the ECU back to stock and it just some slight hic-ups. IMO, UTEC's are glitchy. If your happy with 390ish HP, you'll be happy with the reflash only.
What issues did you have with UTEC/Reflash? I'm running them now and they seem to work fine. I've only got a major hiccup in 1st gear when the utec swtiches over. It feels almost like a fuel cut or VDC and is pretty annoying, although I hear everyone gets it to a point...
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
OP, honestly, i wouldnt pay $5k+ for a kit and go half *** on the tune. ive seen people get up to another 50whp with a piggyback + tune.
Most likely that was on a car with incorrectly modified fuel bucket. If you're running higher or lower fuel pressure because it was modified incorrectly with the returnless system and reflash, this can be smoothed over by adjusting injector pulse width while tuning.

In short, the problem with the bad install is still there, it's just been compensated for by the tuner. It's really easy to just blame the reflash because you're not knowledgeable enough to realize exactly WHY the car is running extremely rich or lean before the tune. This is the conclusion that most jump to because they think the issue was "fixed" by a tunable ems...

This is why I always argue that being very careful and following the instructions during install is way more important on a non-tunable system. If you screw up that fuel bucket mod, you can really screw up AFR's because of inconsistent fuel pressure. It's just the nature of the beast.

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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
What issues did you have with UTEC/Reflash? I'm running them now and they seem to work fine. I've only got a major hiccup in 1st gear when the utec swtiches over. It feels almost like a fuel cut or VDC and is pretty annoying, although I hear everyone gets it to a point...
First time I've heard of 1st gear hiccups, I don't have that problem. My only complaint is partial boost switchover in higher gears with the UTEC
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 04:49 AM
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Taurran does the hiccup present itself as a lean issue? possible up to 17.0 - 1? because thats the issue I have once every 5 minutes or so. JT is working on my Z right now but I'm just curious.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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Taurran does the hiccup present itself as a lean issue? possible up to 17.0 - 1? because thats the issue I have once every 5 minutes or so. JT is working on my Z right now but I'm just curious.
I dont know. My wideband isn't working right now. It came back with no sensor on it. I'm still waiting on the new sensor to arrive where I ordered it, then I have to get a new bung welded in for it. Until then I've been limping around when I'm driving it.

If it switches over to the UTEC in 1st gear it stutters violently, worse even than a VDC cut. I can feel it in higher gears but it isn't nearly as bad.

It's smoking like a smokestack too. I think I'm going to have to change out the oil feed line, go with a smaller restrictor, and tap the oil pan on the front side. I think the only way to get a straight shot back to the oil pan is to put 90 degree elbow into the front of the pan. Hopefully the turbo isn't fully focked now, but we shall see. Turbo system is coming back off the car soon...

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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by diwun67
First time I've heard of 1st gear hiccups, I don't have that problem. My only complaint is partial boost switchover in higher gears with the UTEC

+1, granted I don't have a TN. The only jerk I feel is if I let go of the Gas and Utec give back control to the ECU. I think that is normal since the difference between the Timing and A/F Utec is running and what the ECU wanted to run.
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What I had before reflashing the ECU back to stock (again this was not an issue when running w/o UTEC) is when on the 1/4 mile track and going into the transition point where UTEC takes over, If I went in too hard I would get REALLY bad bucking and jerking ALL the way down the track. If I went in say half throttle I most likely wouldn't have that issue. Even though I am flashed back to stock, I do have an issue where I am in say half boost and lightly release some throttle and get a little bump like some just rear ended me. (I think what athenG is explaining) I have a friend here in Colorado who had all the same issues (he is reflashed too) who switched to Haltech and now 0 issues on a 740hp setup. Not to get off topic but I really haven't been impressed with the UTEC since day one.
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