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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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im looking at the aps tt kit, and im sure these questions have been answered, but what are the best 1/4 mile times ran with this kit? also is the high end good? what kind of top speeds and 0-60 could i expect also? thanks, i just want this to be worth the money because there are a lot of fast vw's and stis in my area that need to be showed whats up and i wanna know that this kit will haul ***.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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high 11s low 120mph trap speed
420+ whp + tq

This is on an agressive tune with a good driver.

0-60 will be the same unless you add some traction

Try searching next time please
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FastTrackZ
im looking at the aps tt kit, and im sure these questions have been answered, but what are the best 1/4 mile times ran with this kit?
Tuned with APS test pipes and the TD 2.5 TD exhaust on 93 octane fuel you can expect to run mid 11's around 125 mph.

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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Wayyyy to vague of a question. Driver is the biggest factor down the 1/4 you could have a good driver in a 370whp APS TT run faster times than a palsy shifter/bad launcher with 500whp....most good drivers are 11's easy with APS TT's-its an awesome kit.

Edit-btw George-I havent seen 1 guy ever run 125mph trap on 93 octane on a stock block APS TT, not even Bigbri with 505whp (13psi)did...
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Wayyyy to vague of a question. Driver is the biggest factor down the 1/4 you could have a good driver in a 370whp APS TT run faster times than a palsy shifter/bad launcher with 500whp....most good drivers are 11's easy with APS TT's-its an awesome kit.
True and a valid point, the driver is one of the main factors for quick 1/4 mile times.

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Edit-btw George-I havent seen 1 guy ever run 125mph trap on 93 octane on a stock block APS TT, not even Bigbri with 505whp (13psi)did...
I saw a stick shift APS twin turbo Z run an 11.20 something at approx 127 MPH a few months back - Aug/Sept 05.

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Yeah but arent you associated with APS? Ha-you dont care if you blow the motor, Id love to know the boost it was running to trap 127mph, if it was on a stock block it was a ticking time bomb...I simply posted off of what Ive seen which is a lot, cuz Im on the boards a ton and know what all the set-us run and are capable of. What your describing is like a 99.5 percentile, meaning only .5%-in other words nobody will beat that-if it was on a stock block. Good to know though...
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Yeah but arent you associated with APS?
Well, I'm friends with one of the guys who works in the engineering area at APS so I can get most information if I ask for.

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Ha-you dont care if you blow the motor, Id love to know the boost it was running to trap 127mph, if it was on a stock block it was a ticking time bomb...
I'm sure they care if they blow the motor (though we all know it's a real possibility to break a stock engine, if you play hard sometimes you pay hard) and it's a stock VQ engine running around 12 to 12.5 psi on 93 octane fuel, it's a real fast car and has been flogged for over 20,000 miles.

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I simply posted off of what Ive seen which is a lot, cuz Im on the boards a ton and know what all the set-us run and are capable of. What your describing is like a 99.5 percentile, meaning only .5%-in other words nobody will beat that-if it was on a stock block. Good to know though...
I don't agree with your sentiment. Any 350Z guy with reasonable driving experience at the strip who's prepared to run drag radials, a decent twin plate clutch with the APS twin turbo system tuned should be able to run in the mid to low 11's.

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I would look at the JWT too before you buy APS. I looked at them very hard but elected to spend my money on other things at the time. The major turn off being the fact that they are in Australia and the authroized dealers are not exactly everywhere if something should go wrong with the kit.
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I would look at the JWT too before you buy APS. I looked at them very hard but elected to spend my money on other things at the time. The major turn off being the fact that they are in Australia and the authroized dealers are not exactly everywhere if something should go wrong with the kit.
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I would look at the JWT too before you buy APS. I looked at them very hard but elected to spend my money on other things at the time. The major turn off being the fact that they are in Australia and the authroized dealers are not exactly everywhere if something should go wrong with the kit.

sorry i know that was a little off topic =)
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Originally Posted by georgec
Any 350Z guy with reasonable driving experience at the strip who's prepared to run drag radials, a decent twin plate clutch with the APS twin turbo system tuned should be able to run in the mid to low 11's.

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Dream on Georgie boy ...

I am sure a few APS owners here would be quite offended by that statement...
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Originally Posted by JimRHIT
Dream on Georgie boy ...

I am sure a few APS owners here would be quite offended by that statement...
I'm not sure why as a number of experienced APS TT guys have run in the mid 11's on stock VQ TT engines - there's no embarrassment for the TT guys who don't want to push the power boundaries or risk their engine at higher than normal power levels.

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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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what kind of motor do you have?

I have the rev-up, and I recently got 502rwhp / 430rwtq at 13psi with JUST the APS TT, test pipes, and a custom true dual. Oh yea this was tuned on 96 octane (half 100 octane and half 91 octane). This was tuned on a Dastek dyno where numbers are usually a bit less than the industry standard dynojets.

I find it truthfully ironic how you can't compare 1/4 run numbers when comparing mods because all drivers have different levels of driving abilities, so you can only compare dyno #'s because it's more standardized. But numbers don't mean anything when you're on the street or racing on a track.
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Originally Posted by georgec
I don't agree with your sentiment. Any 350Z guy with reasonable driving experience at the strip who's prepared to run drag radials, a decent twin plate clutch with the APS twin turbo system tuned should be able to run in the mid to low 11's.

George
I dont agree with you now. Ill use Briguymax as my example (and Im in no way downing him). He ran 13.6 basically stock, 13.3 with a few bolt-ons, would prolly have hit very low 13's or 12's NA if it wasnt for his axle mishap. Id consider him a good driver-more than I can say for most on these boards. He now has a 460rwhp APS TT car-with 430rwhp he cut a 1.7 60ft on slicks, and ran 11.7 @ 120mph. Very impressive indeed, but not mid to low 11's. Im not saying its nt possible for an APS T Tcar to run mid to low 11's on a stock block and 93 oct-just that I havent seen it, and it is very unlikely, like I said before if somebody pulled it off they are 99.5 percentile, do you disagree? If you do, you just $hit on 99% of the members of this forum...
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
If you do, you just $hit on 99% of the members of this forum...

This was my point exactly. Also reference to Jason(?) at MRC ... he was the first APS in the country (and also a good driver) ... but could "only" squeeze out some very high 11s in the low 120s ... which btw is damn impressive.

There are very few cars on this entire site in the low 11s, sure some here "trap" high ... but now we are acting like supra owners if thats all we care about.
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Id consider him a good driver-more than I can say for most on these boards. He now has a 460rwhp APS TT car-with 430rwhp he cut a 1.7 60ft on slicks, and ran 11.7 @ 120mph.
Has Briguymax run his twin turbo Z car at the strip with 460 whp?

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Im not saying its nt possible for an APS T Tcar to run mid to low 11's on a stock block and 93 oct-just that I havent seen it,
I'm clearly saying that a Z car with a good driver and drag radials can run a 11.20 @ 127 MPH, I saw this with my own eyes. The APS car I'm told had 476 WHP, was tuned for 93 octane and has a decent twin plate clutch. If briguymax now has 460 whp and is running drag radials with a twin plate then I'm sure he will run very similar numbers at the strip.

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
I dont agree with you now. Ill use Briguymax as my example (and Im in no way downing him). He ran 13.6 basically stock, 13.3 with a few bolt-ons, would prolly have hit very low 13's or 12's NA if it wasnt for his axle mishap. Id consider him a good driver-more than I can say for most on these boards. He now has a 460rwhp APS TT car-with 430rwhp he cut a 1.7 60ft on slicks, and ran 11.7 @ 120mph. Very impressive indeed, but not mid to low 11's. Im not saying its nt possible for an APS T Tcar to run mid to low 11's on a stock block and 93 oct-just that I havent seen it, and it is very unlikely, like I said before if somebody pulled it off they are 99.5 percentile, do you disagree? If you do, you just $hit on 99% of the members of this forum...
Jason from MRC I think ran 11.4 or 11.5 @ 118or119 stock block low 400's to the wheel... PM Him to verify.... He did it just a couple of months after the first APS install in this country with a very heavy car....
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Is there any 0-60 times out there though for the APS TT? Thats something I'm interested in. (not to jack the thread....)
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0-60 times DONT MATTER!!!!

ask any racer ... any real racer ... hehe j/k

your tires dictate you 0-60 time, in a real race (from a stop or roll) ... you will surely be going to a speed higher than that.
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You guys are forgetting a very important issue....altitude. You may be able to guess what range you may be hitting for your 1/4mi. but altitude's vary from strip to strip...and so will numbers.

Of course driver is an issue as well. A lot of people think it's easy to go out to the drag strip and post up good times with no previous experience, but I would disagree. Being a decent drag racer requires some practice.

FastTrackZ: Making your purchasing decisions based off of 0-60 and 1/4 mile times is not the best way to go about turbocharging a $30,000 sports car. There are too many variables for best 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. I would base your decision off of the tuner shops local to you that you feel are trustworthy.
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