no its just that i really don't care about the book you typed... i was just trying to get my point across

 

don't be sad that you're teh suck

 

my n2o kit is teh bomb!!!!

:slowly walks out of the room with head down:

 

Let's do it and put an end to it. Send me your 2.5" setup. I will put my dump pipes back on, and dyno the car on the same day. I am running the 3.5" pipes into the APS 2.5" exhaust

 

bottlenecks are never good and I can't figure out why APS is the only one that thinks it's good...........i know plenty of drag teams, etc, that say it's asinine to think that.....

 

Clark is the Brains over at JWT vrt is a customer of theirs. they happen to put the turbo kits on and been sucessfull at doing it. if it where any kit id run clarks

 

APS thinks bottlenecks are good and drag teams think saying what is asinine?

 

I am sorry, you are running 2.5" flanges that open up shortly after to 3"
With that setup, you still have to run the smaller dump pipes that are 2.5" at the point they would bolt to your exhaust. THAT IS MY POINT. NOTHING about the X-pipe, NOTHING about the sound, NOTHING about the quality.
Just look at the pic:

 

So please tell me how those 2.5" flanges aren't restrictive in comparison to these?:

 

I would like to know this as well.

 

Well, just saw the accusation thrown out there and thought it was harsh. Unless someone has something they'd like to share.

 

I don't know where this is coming from (Taurren's claim). Flat out, nobody pays me anything. No monetary reimbursment for my posts from anyone.

 

Something I heard from nowhere in particular, and I was interested in Zivman's response. Then again, this is nothing I would own up to personally if I were him, so I expected total denial. Of course nothing can be proven by either party in the context of this forum thread, so take it as you will.

 

Why don't you just say who it is you 'heard' is paying me???

And I love how you play this off on me as you expected "total denial"

 

that point where it mates to the exhaust is only about 4" off the turbo for nearly every tt set up out there. do you know the outlet size of your turbos? my td05's are only 2". so within 4" it expans from 2" to 3". if someone has a greddy kit, they can add our dump tubes and increase exhaust flow by about 30% at full throttle also. now the only reason the aps flanges are that large is because it is internal wastegate. so is the jwt kit. we have seen great gains on the jwt kit with our exhaust.
now run custom dumps off an internal wg turbo, and see what your flange looks like then. meaning, make the flange large enough for just the turbo itself, and it would be far smaller. point being, the flange does not make a bit of difference, but what happens after that, that matters.
has aps shown a gain with the larger test pipes? not being sarcastic at all, but more curious.

 

APS puts quite a bit of R&D into their products. I switched from the cast dumps and 2.5" tests to the big pipes and had a noticable increase in spool times and saw boost rise about .5 - 1 lb at peak and at redline. I am really wanting this back and forth about your exhaust to end. My only point was that you are choking the exhaust through 2.5" piping at the most critical point. Comparing running your exhaust with the 2.5" flange is not comparable IMO to the turbo outlets. Like I said, as the exhaust leaves the turbo, the gass is sitll expanding and the reason I feel the APS big pipes are the better solution.

Like I said, go push your exhaust on all the greddy owners and the handful of JWT owners. You should be able to turn a profit on those.

I still have my cast dumps sitting in my shop if you want to send me a 2.5" setup to dyno against my current exhaust system. If it makes less power, you cover all costs including to send back. If it makes more power, I'll send you the money for the exhaust - I don't even care about the sound or the look of the exhaust, if it proves itself on my car I will buy it.

 

Well as an outsider looking in, that's a pretty strong statement to put out there and follow it up with "Something I heard from nowhere in particular". If you're gonna say something like that, as if it's fact, I would think you'd give a detail or two.

There are fanboy's for every kit, and I'm not necessarily meaning that in a negative conotation. You love your TN kit, and he loves the APS kit. In my quest for research on FI, I visit the "three" forums and have aggravated Sharif to death I know, lol. It's necessary to do so, since this board leans toward TN, motoring toward APS, and tech somewhere in the middle. We're all car enthusiasts and it's a shame these FI threads turn into FI flame wars.

Oh well, carry on.

 

I made it. Mapquest said it would take 10.5 hours......8 cups of coffee and 6 ECA stacks (Ephedrine, Caffine pills, & Aspirin).........Tweeeeaking! I made it in 8 hours. I love roadtrips in my G especially in the middle of the night. Good times!

 

How's the shop look? Hey, I thought Ephedrine was banned!

 

The shop is amazing! Even the front office is nice!

Ephedrine was banned for use in fat burners/diet aids, but can still be bought seperately. I buy plain ephedrine and take it with a 200mg caffine pill and a 300mg aspirin. If someone where to bottle all 3 ingredients and sell it would be illegal. It's called an ECA stack and it increases your metobolism by 10%. Good chit!

http://www.netnutri.com/browse.cfm/4...rine&ovtac=PPC