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Seriously,horsepower limit with the APS kit?

Old Apr 6, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Default Seriously,horsepower limit with the APS kit?

APS is rolling out their new fuel system and it started me thinking; Who's making big horsepower with the APS kit(players with upgraded turbos not included)? I'm stuck at 563whp with an AAM fuel system, big exhaust, built motor and cams. I keep hearing it's capable of 800whp. Anybody making over 600 with the stock turbos? Even with the Forge wastegate actuators and heavier springs, I couldn't sustain over 17lbs. of boost....
What's it take? Water/methanol injection? Even bigger injectors?

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Im sorry but there seems to be alot of "Claims" by APS and what alot of people don't know is that at one point APS was not APS but some other company that was making turbo kits for cars like the Camaro I believe and went out of business because alot of them blew up. Not saying that this is how they are now because they do have a great reputation and make great parts. However, they do seem to make some claims that are not proven. Not saying not possible, but not proven and if they are proven they generally take more work than some of the other kits out there take.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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*grabs popcorn waiting for zivman to demolish all in his riding of teh aps*
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chimmike
*grabs popcorn waiting for zivman to demolish all in his riding of teh aps*
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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If you examine just the theoretical flow charts, the APS turbos are good for 800 crank hp worth of air, which is probably near 700whp. Of course, theory is just one component. The APS might over or under-deliver these numbers, based on a whole host of other factors. Intake, cans, headwork, exhuast, etc...all play a major role in net power production.


I too, am curious if anyone has achieve the magical 700whp with the APS kits, as measured in a dynojet.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Quamen
Im sorry but there seems to be alot of "Claims" by APS and what alot of people don't know is that at one point APS was not APS but some other company that was making turbo kits for cars like the Camaro
That's totally 100% incorrect. APS has always been APS, never another business as far as I know.

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Weld the actuators shut and throw external gates on there

I have seen a single GT2871R with a .48 a/r turbine side boost spike up to 43.8 psi according to the Profec E-01 ... once realized, the E01 was tossed and ran straight wastegate at 21 psi all day long on the dyno.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by georgec
That's totally 100% incorrect. APS has always been APS, never another business as far as I know.

George
George I thinking he is thinking of Dave Inal (sp?).

Dave Inal ripped off a bunch of people in the LS1 community and he now works for APS. The good thing is he is not the CEO or in any position where he can rip people off.

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what about marluci? isn't he on the stock turbos and over 700whp?
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Originally Posted by georgec
That's totally 100% incorrect. APS has always been APS, never another business as far as I know.

George
I think that was some time back when one of your colleagues was posting on LS1tech forums


Edit: yeah, like what he said two posts up

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
what about marluci? isn't he on the stock turbos and over 700whp?
I think he has the greddy kit.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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SGP said APS.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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marluci has the aps kit with stock turbos, but he has some larger turbos waiting to be installed.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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If you talking about the black 350z that made 715whp, it has the greddy kit with 20g turbos
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Just so everyone knows in no way am I down grading APS. I have looked into getting an APS TT or ST and that was my orignal intention before I got my NCR custom single turbo kit (kicks self in the a$$). I do feel that a few things are over priced but I feel that things such as their TT and ST are very good quality for the price.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by meatbag
If you talking about the black 350z that made 715whp, it has the greddy kit with 20g turbos
nope, talking about the silver one, marluci7, aps tt made 715rwhp.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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My car is at 650rwhp right now @14 psi on 100 octane with the aps kit and built motor. I just droped it off for a retune on 109 octane so will see what happens. I still have stock fuel rails, stock plenium, and 2.5 inch daul exhaust.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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Get a plenum and 3in APS exhaust and i think you'll be at that magic number or super close to it.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Blake350z
Get a plenum and 3in APS exhaust and i think you'll be at that magic number or super close to it.
I think he has those.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RTracing
My car is at 650rwhp right now @14 psi on 100 octane with the aps kit and built motor. I just droped it off for a retune on 109 octane so will see what happens. I still have stock fuel rails, stock plenium, and 2.5 inch daul exhaust.

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Originally Posted by Blake350z
Get a plenum and 3in APS exhaust and i think you'll be at that magic number or super close to it.
I think he has those.
Did you read dude?
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