geez, I can't decide on what water injection kit to get...
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geez, I can't decide on what water injection kit to get...
I'm getting the idea that a progressive controller is the way to go and have been looking at the cooling mist kits the most
is this kit totally stupid overkill? Or is it possibly worth the $599 instead of the $400 kits?
http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmai...id=controllerS
I'm running a vortech setup doing around 450whp or so and am looking into a W/I kit more for cooling and safety than performance
is this kit totally stupid overkill? Or is it possibly worth the $599 instead of the $400 kits?
http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmai...id=controllerS
I'm running a vortech setup doing around 450whp or so and am looking into a W/I kit more for cooling and safety than performance
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If you can wait a while the Spearco/Turbonetics Water/meth kit should be released very shortly. The 350Z tuner that is assisting with this is pending install right now and the kit that will be released will be a Z/G specific kit with detailed instructions on where to mount what, etc. Spearco/Turbonetics does have a universal kit you could buy now but the Z/G specific kit will be worth the wait...
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how soon before we know more info about the kit? sounds like it's just a few weeks away from being done. How much will it cost?
Last edited by sentry65; 05-10-2006 at 07:25 AM.
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Originally Posted by sentry65
how soon before we know more info about the kit? sounds like it's just a few weeks away from being done. How much will it cost?
Last edited by MIAPLAYA; 05-10-2006 at 07:31 AM.
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Originally Posted by RedLeader
mia-
Will the kit you're referring to allow all water, all methanol, or 50/50 as mistaboosta suggested above?
Thanks,
Bruce
Will the kit you're referring to allow all water, all methanol, or 50/50 as mistaboosta suggested above?
Thanks,
Bruce
Applications and Features:
Charge-air cooling for force induction engines
Minimizing the onset of detonation
Suitable to run water and alcohol mixtures
"Plug and Play" controller for ease of installation
All components are properly engineered for reliable operation
Intermittent diaphragm pump- more reliable than the normal windshield washer pump
Built in Thermal-Cut in water pump
Enable "Meaner & Leaner" air / fuel ratio
Increase octane rating on low grade pump fuel
Dash controller allows real-time user flow control with status LEDs
Only three wires needed to be connected for total control
Can be used with any 0-5V load sensors
Inline 100 micron stainless steel filter
Description:
The system is comprised of a dash-mounted controller and a high-pressure diaphragm pump designed to receive a Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) signal from the controller.
The pump can be used with a high concentration of alcohol (75%) as well as just water alone; this is particularly useful for applications where alcohol can enhance the fuel octane or just asadditional fuel at high boost levels. It is recommended that alcohol be added for cold operating conditions.
The Dash controller only measures 2.3" x 1.4" x 0.6" tall, perfectly suited to fit into any small cockpit space. Although small in size, it contains all the necessary controls to enable the user to cover the'mid' to 'high' load range of any 0-5V output MAP sensor.
Injection triggering point is set by the 'THRESHOLD' potentiometer and is indicated by a blue LED on the controller. It is user adjustable between 1.5-4.5V. Adjustment to this potentiometer will determine the starting point of the water injection system. As shown in the chart below, 1.5V of a 2 bar MAP sensor represents approximately 0.4 bar below atmosphere (vacuum), while a 3 bar sensor represents almost atmospheric pressure.
The injection % range is set by the 'GAIN' potentiometer on the controller. As the red LED lights up, it indicates about 80% of full injection and will continue to get brighter until it approaches 100%. The gain potentiometer can be set to arrive at any level at any boost.
The water injection system can be switched off via an 'ON/OFF' push button, indicated by a green LED on the controller.
This latest 'Plug and Play' water injection from Turbonetics sets a new standard for the growing water injection market currently shared by many new water injection manufacturers.
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where will the water tank be mounted and how big is it? Can we get different options for the size? I was thinking of getting a gallon tank instead of a 2 qt - just to help make sure I don't run out cause that might suck.
As far as the standalone controller being so good to just use it on it's own - I'm curious how it's better cause so far all the controllers look like they have basically a minimum boost **** and a maximum boost **** and that's all you gotta set up - pretty simple - how was this improved on?
edit- ah ok your post beat me
As far as the standalone controller being so good to just use it on it's own - I'm curious how it's better cause so far all the controllers look like they have basically a minimum boost **** and a maximum boost **** and that's all you gotta set up - pretty simple - how was this improved on?
edit- ah ok your post beat me
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Originally Posted by sentry65
where will the water tank be mounted and how big is it? Can we get different options for the size? I was thinking of getting a gallon tank instead of a 2 qt - just to help make sure I don't run out cause that might suck.
As far as the standalone controller being so good to just use it on it's own - I'm curious how it's better cause so far all the controllers look like they have basically a minimum boost **** and a maximum boost **** and that's all you gotta set up - pretty simple - how was this improved on?
As far as the standalone controller being so good to just use it on it's own - I'm curious how it's better cause so far all the controllers look like they have basically a minimum boost **** and a maximum boost **** and that's all you gotta set up - pretty simple - how was this improved on?
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the cooling mist W/I kits have a 40 micron filters instead of 100. On their site they go on saying other kits have 90 micron filters.
Does this kit have any sort of clog sensors like some of the cooling mist kits do?
how many psi can the pump do? The other kits can do 150psi
which side of the car will the tank be on?
Does this kit have any sort of clog sensors like some of the cooling mist kits do?
how many psi can the pump do? The other kits can do 150psi
which side of the car will the tank be on?
Last edited by sentry65; 05-10-2006 at 08:03 AM.
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Originally Posted by sentry65
the cooling mist W/I kits have a 40 micron filters instead of 100. On their site they go on saying other kits have 90 micron filters.
Does this kit have any sort of clog sensors like some of the cooling mist kits do?
how many psi can the pump do? The other kits can do 150psi
Does this kit have any sort of clog sensors like some of the cooling mist kits do?
how many psi can the pump do? The other kits can do 150psi
Edit:: Dammit quit editting so fast the tank will most likely be on the passenger side of the car...Ditto for the filler tube..
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hehe sorry about the editing - trying not to be a post ***** with multiple posts
I kinda like the idea of having the water tank actually be inside of the car. The main reason is I can physically see the tank and where the water level is vs hoping it's pretty full. The water probably stays shielded from extreme weather more being inside and will stay cooler in the summer. I know the hoses would be longer though. Also weight distribution etc
btw thanks for answering questions and posting info
I'm probably going to be mounting an oil cooler where that kit is having the water tank mounted and don't want to screw myself
I kinda like the idea of having the water tank actually be inside of the car. The main reason is I can physically see the tank and where the water level is vs hoping it's pretty full. The water probably stays shielded from extreme weather more being inside and will stay cooler in the summer. I know the hoses would be longer though. Also weight distribution etc
btw thanks for answering questions and posting info
I'm probably going to be mounting an oil cooler where that kit is having the water tank mounted and don't want to screw myself
Last edited by sentry65; 05-10-2006 at 08:10 AM.
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I was looking at some big Jaz tanks to mount in the rear by the strut - maybe I am wrong, but the weight back there should help with traction. And my bumper wells are full now, and will be fuller later!
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Originally Posted by sentry65
hehe sorry about the editing - trying not to be a post ***** with multiple posts
I kinda like the idea of having the water tank actually be inside of the car. The main reason is I can physically see the tank and where the water level is vs hoping it's pretty full. The water probably stays shielded from extreme weather more being inside and will stay cooler in the summer. I know the hoses would be longer though. Also weight distribution etc
btw thanks for answering questions and posting info
I'm probably going to be mounting an oil cooler where that kit is having the water tank mounted and don't want to screw myself
I kinda like the idea of having the water tank actually be inside of the car. The main reason is I can physically see the tank and where the water level is vs hoping it's pretty full. The water probably stays shielded from extreme weather more being inside and will stay cooler in the summer. I know the hoses would be longer though. Also weight distribution etc
btw thanks for answering questions and posting info
I'm probably going to be mounting an oil cooler where that kit is having the water tank mounted and don't want to screw myself
#18
Originally Posted by gringott
I was looking at some big Jaz tanks to mount in the rear by the strut - maybe I am wrong, but the weight back there should help with traction. And my bumper wells are full now, and will be fuller later!
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yeah I honestly don't use my trunk space all that much and with a 1 gallon tank you only lose like half a square foot, though I guess the pump has to be mounted somewhere too which is kinda ugly
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Originally Posted by sentry65
yeah I honestly don't use my trunk space all that much and with a 1 gallon tank you only lose like half a square foot, though I guess the pump has to be mounted somewhere too which is kinda ugly