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Old May 17, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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Currently I have an 03 350 with a stillen superchrager. I love it but am craving more power. I wanted to sell the supercharger build the motor and go with a JWT twin turbo kit. But I didnt want to have my car down for so long as I wanted to do the build myself more or less. Well today My friend called me from a Nissan dealer. They have on 06 350Z full longblock with only 1200 miles. They said the guy drove through a puddle and the car died. The Tech said that the intake took in some water but no damage to the motor, and they had it running perfectly. But the customer insisted on a new motor and the insurance company paid for it. Long story short i have known this tech for about 10 years, I buy all our parts for my body shop there. He said he would sell my the long block complete for $1,000. I figure it;s a no brainer for the price right?
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Old May 17, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Is it a rev up motor? If it is won't work in your 03.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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An '06 motor probably won't work with an '03 ECU, but for $1000 I'd buy it anyways.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Thats what I figured. I will have to ask the guy if it's a Rev up, I assumed it was an 06 since it only had 1200 miles and they took it out a few weeks ago. But I thought 1000 was a good deal too
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if it's a 287 hp engine, then it will work fine for your '03. If it injested water, be prepared for internal damage, inspite of what the dealer said. BTW, I'd buy it in a heart beat, so go get it and get building
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Old May 17, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Ok, I am a bit confused. The Z comes with a shortblock VQ right? If a Z had a longblock in it, would it have to be a built longblock VQ that was added to the Z?
Are you able to add most things like say the aps-TT to a longblock in the Z? I guess it would be nice to know all the differences with a shortblock vq vs a long block.

$1000 for a ?able long block. Sounds like a bargon even with a few needed repairs.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Zrealsoon
Ok, I am a bit confused. The Z comes with a shortblock VQ right? If a Z had a longblock in it, would it have to be a built longblock VQ that was added to the Z?
Are you able to add most things like say the aps-TT to a longblock in the Z? I guess it would be nice to know all the differences with a shortblock vq vs a long block.

$1000 for a ?able long block. Sounds like a bargon even with a few needed repairs.
i'm confused about what u r trying to say
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Old May 17, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Ok, one at a time.
The Z comes with a shortblock VQ right?
What is the difference between a shortblock VQ and longblock VQ, i.e could you install an APS-TT on the longblock also?

;-)
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Old May 17, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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shortblock is a engine cylinder block that has pistons, rods and crank. Long block is a short block with heads and valvetrain. hope that helps.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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is there any physical difference between the 06 block and the 03 block? because if he is building the motor and their is no difference in the blocks.. then it shouldn't really matter right?
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Old May 17, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Old May 17, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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there is a difference between the 287 hp engine and the 300 hp engine. the blocks are not interchangeable. also, the model year is not the whole story.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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I would think the short block and possibly heads would be interchangeable, but not the timing chain covers/chains
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Old May 17, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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deck height is different, not interchangeable, at least that's what jason@performance nissan said and I trust his research.
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Originally Posted by arizzee
deck height is different, not interchangeable, at least that's what jason@performance nissan said and I trust his research.
thats funny.. because i thought the VQ30 and the non-revup VQ35 are the same..
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Old May 17, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Zrealsoon
Ok, one at a time.
The Z comes with a shortblock VQ right?
What is the difference between a shortblock VQ and longblock VQ, i.e could you install an APS-TT on the longblock also?

;-)
Mine only came as a 'shortblock VQ' oil was spraying everywhere!
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Wow.. way to go me..
I am sorry, I used the wrong words to describe things...
I really meant to ask about displacement in the VQ.
I understand that if you go with a lower compression ratio say 8.5:1, you can safely run much higher boost then a setup that is at 11.5:1. If you are running the 11.5:1 ratio, does this mean that there would be more displacement then in the 8.5:1 ratio?

Also, I have heard that a setup with 11.5:1 will be more responsive under boost in lower rpms. If I decided to go with an APS-TT what would you recommend for compression? (8.5:1 or 11.5:1).

Thanks for any input, I understand that this is pretty newb stuff here...

xcmpx... lol yeah, I understand the severe craziness of my question there. :-)
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Zrealsoon
Wow.. way to go me..
I am sorry, I used the wrong words to describe things...
I really meant to ask about displacement in the VQ.
I understand that if you go with a lower compression ratio say 8.5:1, you can safely run much higher boost then a setup that is at 11.5:1. If you are running the 11.5:1 ratio, does this mean that there would be more displacement then in the 8.5:1 ratio?

Also, I have heard that a setup with 11.5:1 will be more responsive under boost in lower rpms. If I decided to go with an APS-TT what would you recommend for compression? (8.5:1 or 11.5:1).

Thanks for any input, I understand that this is pretty newb stuff here...

xcmpx... lol yeah, I understand the severe craziness of my question there. :-)
No difference in displacement between 8.5:1 or 11.5:1 compression. We have 10.3:1 stock iirc, so going up in compression imo for a TT build certainly isnt a good idea. People lower compression so they can run higher boost levels safer, any small amount of power you lose with the compression drop is made up very quickly by your turbo kit when it builds boost. Ive also read that the difference in driving out of boost in a turbo Z with 8.5:1 or 9:1 compression is not noticable at all, so take your pick. In closing if your going TT-choose bwteen the two compressions I just mentioned.
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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Alberto, Thanks!
That cleared things up a ton.... things are begining to make ALOT more sense.
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Honestly, start reading this website and you will have all your questions answered. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine1.htm
Originally Posted by Zrealsoon
Wow.. way to go me..
I am sorry, I used the wrong words to describe things...
I really meant to ask about displacement in the VQ.
I understand that if you go with a lower compression ratio say 8.5:1, you can safely run much higher boost then a setup that is at 11.5:1. If you are running the 11.5:1 ratio, does this mean that there would be more displacement then in the 8.5:1 ratio?

Also, I have heard that a setup with 11.5:1 will be more responsive under boost in lower rpms. If I decided to go with an APS-TT what would you recommend for compression? (8.5:1 or 11.5:1).

Thanks for any input, I understand that this is pretty newb stuff here...

xcmpx... lol yeah, I understand the severe craziness of my question there. :-)
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