the black is from the wrong heat range AND contamination. if you are unfamiliar with slag. it is what is left on the metal after it is formed to close out contaminates as the steel cools. i can clearly see that that slag has not been ground off of the metal, and the zinc has not been ground off the bolt. if you want to talk quality, lol.
mine put all the strength to the bolt going through the entire mount. yours relies on the strength of the end cap welds to keep it together. i mean really, tomato/tamato. but the fact you are trying to justify $300 for them and calling mine junk, is insane, hahaha.

 

heres a pic showing some stainless welding from us. we also keep zero clearance tolerances for fitment on every part, making sure the strongest possible weld is achieved and will not crack over time. very rare to see, most just fill the gaps.

 

So disappointed with InjectedPerf.

 

$300.00 is overpriced and you know it. "You get what you pay for" is one thing... Paying more for nothing is just plain stupid.

BTW. I bet I can have these mounts made local out of superior materials and welding with powder coating still not pay over $200.00 a set.

 

How are you going to say something like that in their thread but not explain?

 

Easy... I just did.

I'm just stating my opinion. It's mine, and mine alone.

If you'd like me to explain I'm sure I could but that would just upset a lot of other people who don't share my opinion. Not that I care too much if those people get all pi$$y or not.... Sorta.

 

Well I posted before you edited your post explaining yourself, just so everyone knows.

I agree, it seems very overpriced to me.

 

I think any sensible person would.

 

Sorry Injected but anyone who buys your product over the SVR ones and pays more than double is just a fool. Again this is just my opinion

Happy modding!

 

I actually kinda wonder a little bit if solid motor mounts help the engine internals stay balanced and less abused.

If the engine is rock solid, it's not being bashed around as you throttle it hard. You won't effectively 'shake the rocks in the can' cause it won't shake in the first place

the crankshaft moves where the engine goes and if the engine isn't moving, then the lateral forces of the engine that would normally be moving side to side, are no longer acting on the internals

You'd think the rubber mounts would cushion the engine, but that's what permits the engine to shake in the first place. The force of the combustions and the flywheel and driveshaft's resistence is what forces the engine to move - which in turn drags the internals with it and suddenly stops and goes the other direction as the engine jumps side to side



i dunno, just thinking out loud

 

Where did we say your mounts were junk? I don't believe in using a bolt size other than what Nissan has spent millions of dollars they designed for their car. You can not do this with the design you have made. You can call our welds junk if you want. That is your opinion. I know what slag is and we are well aware of fabrication, welding, and design. You get on here and call my parts complete crap and then jump off.

 

Both of you have your opinion and I appreciate it. If you think $300 is overpriced then you can believe that. We have sold dozens upon dozens of solid motor mounts for Supras with no one saying one word about it. And this is at the exact same price. These are not overpriced in our opinion and we don't expect to sell them to everyone. Same with the Magnetti Marreli and L19 ARP head studs we have developed and produced. These aren't for everyone and those that understand it will want it. Plain and simple.

Paying more for nothing? These are completely different then SVRs. If you don't see that, then this is a pointless conversation. If you can have them made for less than $200 then why are you even questioning my product and have it done locally?

 

I understand were you are coming from, just from a consumer perspective I dont see how someone can justify spending more than double for your product even though the IP mounts and SVR mounts are diffrent in design, They both serve the same purpose, And i beleive are both equal in quality and Function. Reason is they are both over built and will never see the stress that would be able to break them.

Basically if you were a Consumer Greg, with out being biased Which product would you choose to install on your car and WHY?

-George

 

Don't flatter yourself because you are welding something the proper way. We simply introduced a product and you felt the need to state your opinion about what we have made.The fact you think you are being "attacked" would never have happened if you didn't have some crappy comment to make about our product in the first place. You were never attacked we simply compared to two products together. This thread wasn't about you or your product. The fact that you have jumped on here and started talking about how great of a welder you are has nothing to do with our motor mounts. Why don't you start a thread of your own talking about how great of a welder you are.

 

There are several wheel manufactures out there ranging from $150 a wheel to $1000 wheel. They both are round, you mount tires on them and they look pretty. They all do the same job so why is it some cost more than others?

Materials they are made out of, cost of production of a specific desing and also how much research has gone into a product before it has been made available to purchase. Our design has been tested and proven over the last years as well as being made out of superior materials to other products of similar design. You can buy a American racing wheel, you can buy a BBS wheel but somewhere along the line you have to figure out what you want and what you are willing to pay for. Dont be fooled into thinking everything that looks similar must be the same thing.....

 

George,

I can't express my opinion on SVR's mounts because I have never seen them. I have seen one picture that is 2"x2". From an engineering standpoint I feel that our's are overall stronger. We use Chromoly and the SVR's are DOM steel. We use the same thread design 3/8" and 1/2" as Nissan has designed for some reason with the 350z. We have two places (stud design compared to a single bolt design) to secure the motor (same as Nissan and Toyota use). The biggest point I can relate to is that we have used the exact same material, welds, design, etc. in our 1200-1400hp Toyota Supra mounts. I know the design we have made works because I have done so in other applications. Both designs are nothing new. If you look at the center section of our design and SVR's they are very similar. There are only so many ways you can make a mount due to physical room, fitment between the upper mount and the subframe, etc. They both look identical to the ones we have made for the Supra.

So to answer your question, I can only recommend what I have tested. Yes, our mounts cost more. If everyone feels they are the same, I am not sure why. I am not going to justify the cost anymore, because there will always be someone to downgrade what we have done. People slam my product saying it is way overpriced but will go spend thousands of dollars more because there is a better rod out there (Pauter vs. Carrillo), better head studs (ARP studs vs. L19 studs), ECU (eManage vs. Marreli vs. AEM). It is all relative to what people want. I am not here to mass produce these mounts. They are specialized to people that want to eliminate the amount of engine travel due to the added torque the motor puts out.

It simply comes down to the consumer's opinion. I am not going to fight with people over which is better. I have expressed what I feel to be the main differences above. If someone feels that the SVR's mounts are better, cheaper in price, etc. then I would expect them to go that route. I just feel strong in what we have done and expect people to understand this.

 

I'm sure if you listed specific differences between your and SVR's products and explained in a little detail why they cost so much, then people would not complain so much.

Just a suggestion to help things go smoother.

 

I do not see $300.00 in these mounts

!!!OVERPRICED!!!

 

seb, check your pm

 

One question for both of you, Why not use polyutrethane between the bolt and the support on both sides for less vibration, it would still not allow the motor flex or move right?

Just getting some opinions before I install mine. Would the use of polyurethane be a bad idea?

-George