Originally Posted by Bullitproof

I just got my car back from car version 2 tonight. took my aps st, added cams and utec. the before numbers were 385whp/402tq at 9psi. i got 420whp/412tq at 9.5psi with the new setup and 440whp with c-16. i'm very happy with the setup but i did pay more to get the same whp as a tt. but for me its about the journey. i've probably spent enough money, including the price of the car, to buy a z06, but i would have had to wait two years to get it. and that would have sucked. i'm a car guy and its not about buying the fastest car out there, it's about personalization for me. if i bought a z06 for example, i would still want rims, tires, exhaust, etc. so for me the z/g platform was the best choice for me. will i get tired of the horsepower and want to build the motor eventually? heck yes!!!!!!!! it's like a sickness you know?

Originally Posted by josh846

a turbonetics kit is 5100, guages boost, egt 550, then to install that you will need around 1500 including the guages installed. You will have to have your a/c recharged which is 130-150. Your factory a/c is going to get the high and more than likely the low side burned, no matter what someone tells you, it will the exhaust side of turbo is poorely designed in that it is way to close to both lines and burned through both of mine, and yes we did everything that the instructions say to do, and we could not get the lines away from the exhaust piping. that ended up costing me 950 to get custom ran high and low lines. they had to uninstall the top part of the turbo and alot of labor involved in designing it, i could have done it myself but did not have the time. that is the least you will need, but then i would say get a utec or some kind of engine management, which will be around 500 low end and 2000 high end. then to get it tuned probably close to 700 with just one map, that is about the least amount of stuff you will have to do. I am not sure if i had to do it over again i would go with the tn kit, but it does get good power, i might spend a few extra dollars and get a complete kit with ecu that will not burn my ac lines, becuase that a/c line problem only cost $950 money wise but more more than that in my time having to deal with it running it to different places and letting them do it very disheartening actually that it was designed so poorly in that aspect. I think TN should reroute the a/c line and make it part of the kit, even though it will raise the price another 200 who cares i wouldn't mind paying another 200 when already paying 5100.

Originally Posted by barthelb

my opinion is if your having problems justifying or affording the setup initially, don't do it. Cuz if something goes wrong and it breaks. Your gonna be hurting to get it fixed. I've seen that happen many times. If you can't fix it if it breaks don't do it, period. Other than that it will be expensive.

Originally Posted by dingobiatch

I might get flamed, I've searched but I can't find a simple answer to this question.
I was just looking at the Greddy Twin Turbo kit, which I've seen going for $5.6k or so. People on the forums talk about how they spend upwards of 15k-25k on their cars to go FI, and I don't think that included an engine build.
So, my question is, why does it cost so much more over the kit price? I know install is a grand or so, but still. And tuning probably costs a bit. But what else goes into those massive amounts of money spent on FI?
And I'm talking about only going to 360whp or so (which is said to be what the Greddy TT kit will do at stock boost).

Originally Posted by josh846

Well the 3 people i know of here in town all have the same problem with the AC line. I have seen many threads about the issue on here or other sites. that is one thing i had heard was the main problem with the TN kit, but when i talked to the guy before i ordered it he assured me that the issue had been fixed, which it hadn't and the reroute is really to long and the way you have to install it it brushes into my exhaust pipe that burned the hole in it. i had to get another 3 inches added to it and then went around my sway bar, probably not the best idea, but better than being up against the exhaust. Also why hasn't TN fixed the problem with their wastegate, telling you to install it backwards? my shop did since it was their first install, luckily they caught it when checking the a/f ratio, and yes i do have gauges, but it boosted up to around 28 on the dyno, which could have very easily blown my engine.