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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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The real cost of a cage is the fitting and welding. Figure 30 hours to properly remove and replace all interior, clean all mounting points, but all pipes and mounting pads to fit, tig weld all joints. Most shops charge $60 an hour.

I've done cages in 3 cars and the cheapest one was $1850
I didn't ask for a price on labor I asked for a price of a bar.

I understand that labor is on top of that but 30 hours?????? come on

I can take the interior out in about 2 hours the rest should be no more than 4 hours

$200 roll bar 6 hours labor at $60 = $560

not $2000 plus parts....
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Tomcat - Here's some pics of my custom 5 point:





My bar was done by Gary Castillo of Design Craft Fabrication in Lake Forest, CA. It was $800 but that was a hook-up price. Probably around $1000-1200. He did an amazing job, everything lines up and sturdy as hell.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Nice.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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damn that beautiful lol.. How much weight do you think that adds?
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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I think the issue lies in the fact that no one makes an off the shelf roll bar setup for the Z. This makes it tough to estimate the costs of one since you can basically design it however you want to. Coming from the Supra world, a cage for $1800 installed is about the going rate since the Supra is in the same boat the Z is due to the fact that no one makes a kit for it.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Try Autopower, get the 4 point and have someone add the 5th point with a swingout.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
I didn't ask for a price on labor I asked for a price of a bar.

I understand that labor is on top of that but 30 hours?????? come on

I can take the interior out in about 2 hours the rest should be no more than 4 hours

$200 roll bar 6 hours labor at $60 = $560

not $2000 plus parts....
How can you estimate a job that you yourself can not do?????
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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i think those jegs kits are just the bars, that you still have to get welded in...

thats most of the price, steel isnt too expensive..
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rabbid
How can you estimate a job that you yourself can not do?????
How do you know I can't do that job? Do you know me?

Bottomline is that connecting 5 points to the chasis should not take as much time as intalling a twin turbo kit...
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Tomcat - Here's some pics of my custom 5 point:





My bar was done by Gary Castillo of Design Craft Fabrication in Lake Forest, CA. It was $800 but that was a hook-up price. Probably around $1000-1200. He did an amazing job, everything lines up and sturdy as hell.
very nice, that's what I'm talking about

I will contact them, thanks!
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Do you have their contact Info? I googled them but didn't get anything
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Originally Posted by THE TECH
I think the issue lies in the fact that no one makes an off the shelf roll bar setup for the Z. This makes it tough to estimate the costs of one since you can basically design it however you want to. Coming from the Supra world, a cage for $1800 installed is about the going rate since the Supra is in the same boat the Z is due to the fact that no one makes a kit for it.
You are right that is why I am so disapointed that AAM did not get their Roll Bar done. From what they had told me was that they needed a Z to fit it correct.ly But they couldn't find anyone out there to lend their car. The AAM Roll Bar was supposed to run at $800.

The weird thing is that there are quite a few companies do make roll bars for the Z llike Kirk and Cusco but none of them make NHRA legal ones, I'm not quite sure why not it's really not much different
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
Do you have their contact Info? I googled them but didn't get anything
DesignCrafts phone #: 949-457-1234
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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thank you!
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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omg that roll bar is so neatly done in that G... if it wasnt for the back seats, i wouldnt mind that in my daily driver at all!
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I couldn't find Design Craft's number but someone listed it above. They did my friend's Supra and did a fantastic job.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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I know its not NHRA legal, but I love my Kirk Racing bar. Hell, they make the cages for most of the nitro cars, so even though its not certified, I have completel faith in it. Also the price is nice too. It did take me and my roommate a full day to get it in, but it stiffened the car up so much its nuts! I can't rave enough about it.
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Maybe just change your sport to road racing and you can buy an off-the-self roll cage from Kirk Racing.

Seriously, do you have the NHRA rules on roll bars? I bet that the Kirk roll bar with a slight modification would work?
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MoodDude
Maybe just change your sport to road racing and you can buy an off-the-self roll cage from Kirk Racing.

Seriously, do you have the NHRA rules on roll bars? I bet that the Kirk roll bar with a slight modification would work?
Road Racing? Me? nope I like the G-force push too much

Yes I have the requirements, I need to scan those in one of these days, I think the only difference is the needed bar on the drivers side. That should be possible to add.
Once I have the engine build done I need a cage anyway so maybe the kirk cage will do the trick, but they do not have a picture so I can't tell

How long did it take to insall the kirk bar?
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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I have ordered my Kirk bar, but I get it in about 2 weeks - so I haven't installed it. They do have pictures of there roll bar and roll cage for the 350Z:

http://www.kirkracing.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=photos

Now, you can get as much g-force push out of road racing as you want, then you get that nice g-force from braking and cornering to boot as well.

Good Luck.
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