Ahem...what I mean was don't get the APS ST, get the JWT....Obviously thats what I meant. Jeez

<--- Skimmer

 

All of this is a given regardless of which kit you go with. You don't need a boost controller either, the unichip will work fine. For your power needs you may be able to get away with the stock exhaust however you will experience boost drop but if you are fine with that level of power(~350whp) than its not a problem. You will be super safe at that power level also and it will still be plenty fast. When you want more power down the road get the APS ST exhaust for 995 and then get it tuned by an experienced shop. You will barely have any boost drop when properly set up with the exhaust. You do not need a boost controller like some have said. GL

 

1) you need an exhaust for it not to run like crap....common sense
2) gauges
3) boost controller because the APS boost solenoid thats controlled by the Unichip is also crap.....this is news to me
4) upgraded clutch and flywheel......optional
5) dyno tune.......obvious
if you add all that up it turns out that its NOT that cheap. All in all thru my experience ive learned that there is no such thing as CHEAP F/I, so do it right the first time :........True

 

Thanks for this info!!! I love to read/hear more!

 

thanx for the info on the boost controler, I was scratching my head a little

 

i dont know why anyone hasn't addressed this yet, but why do you want the APS ST kit over the Turbonetics ST kit. Personally i think the Turbonetics kit is better. If you want stock boost it comes with the flash. If you want more than stock boost it's available in a tuner version.

But like others mentioned, i'd go with the JWT kit if i had the money to fork over for a new kit + install.

 

The boost controller is fine, been working for me just fine on my TT setup and the single I installed on blake's car.

You need an exhaust that flows well regardless of what kit you might choose. The APS single is the best single setup on the market - not even a debate. It includes everything to get you running safely (relatively speaking). The competition includes no boost controller at all, no tunable EMS or map sensor, no water cooled turbo, no fuel system, and the list goes on.

As far as this list goes
1) you need an exhaust for it not to run like crap - won't run like crap, but definitely won't be living up to it's potential

2) gauges - not needed. I would reccomend getting them, but having a boost gauge or AFR, doesn't really make the setup any safer, just allows you to be more informed about what is going on

3) boost controller because the APS boost solenoid thats controlled by the Unichip is also crap - not crap, slightly dated maybe, but still is more than capable. the EMS incorporates boost, timing, and fuel control and with the addition of an add on module, can control things like water/meth injection

4) upgraded clutch and flywheel
well obviously you should look into the clutch - flywheel is not needed. That said, the clutch won't have an affect on turbo setup itself, rather how the power is put to the ground. just like a set of tires IMO

5) dyno tune
Very true. With the APS setup you have the capability to get a custom load based dyno tune without having to buy a 3rd party EMS

No FI setup should be perceived as cheap. There are a lot of things to spend money on and sometimes that list seems never ending. At 4995, this kit is a steal and should be perceived as a bargain.

I have installed the APS single feel I know the kit decently well. The only gripe I have about the kit is that the mount for the turbo makes putting in a clutch about 1.5X as hard to do. The solution, put the clutch during the install, before you mount up the piping or turbo.

 

This might be a good start to why he might want the APS setup:

APS tunable EMS
TN No tunable EMS

APS return styel fuel system including injectors
TN No fuel system

APS EMS controlled boost controller
TN no boost control

APS MAP sensor
TN uses stock maf sensor

APS replacement oil pan - baffled and increased capacity
TN tapped stock oil pan

APS water cooled and oil lubricated turbo
TN oil cooled/lubricated turbo

APS remote mount turbo (equates to 3.5" dump and less heat)
TN engine mount turbo (equatest to 3" dump and heat)

 

You think you would know by know not to open this can of worms... I was hoping this thread would go without somoene stirring the muck.

 

Does anyone know if this kit has ever been installed on a G35 sedan?

 

I was hoping this wouldnt turn into a TN vs. aps, but now that aps has dropped the price on their kit, the debate will start again. Personally i think the TN is a slick set up, period. But....at the new price point, plus all the extras the you get( some might feel you dont need the unichip, injectors, semi-return system, oil pan and boost controller, but it sure is nice to get them) it's alot choice thats harder to make. Customer service on the other hand goes to turbonectics. But....I had my ST installed at a reputable, ultra-clean shop that treated my car with respect. So I havent had to deal with aps for anything as of yet( with the exception of the schematic for the scavenger pump which is different on the g35) The choice is always left up to the consumer. I am in no way an aps fanboy, I just think they make a great product for my needs. Some may disagree, but my numbers don't lie. here's an update mod list if anyone is interested in the route i took to my horsepower levels.

http://www.carv2.com/site/project_detail.cfm?id=443

 

Bullitproof you are right, but if you ever see an APS kit up close and install one you will see that their turbo kits are top of the line.

That turbo kit is close with the JWT kit, but you are also right about the fact on the customer service. It really is just a personal preference choice, just like everything else

Aps and Turbonetics both has reputable names but it all comes down to which side are you going to choose...Which kit is the most reliable, and tuner friendly.

But good luck with your decision Robert_K

 

I have an APS kit.

 

HAHAHA Maybe I should have read your Sig Well then you know exactly what I mean then What color is your G?

 

Black on Black!!!!! I am the knight rider!!!!!!

http://www.carv2.com/site/project_detail.cfm?id=443

 

Haha Hell ya same here, I don't see any Black Rims?? Great looking car...I just need the Gialla grilla and my calipers painted and there will not be one spot on the car that isn't Black...Total Knight Rider Status

I'm really feeling you on the single exhaust...How loud is that exhaust setup?

 

Here's one they took at the philly auto show in Feb.

http://gallery.modified.com/gallery....010.jpg&page=1

 

Looks great

Mine Almost Complete... Taking the logo off of the trunk and the sticker



Drift Day


Limo tint all around, and I have matching rims for the backs to go with the fronts, but used some other rims for drifting.

 

You cali boys are sick with all that drifting stuff! Nice ride, i'm a sucker for clean black rides. The jic is nice for tunnel runs and scaring off little kids. i can't put my kid in the back without earplugs because of the noise. if it was just a track car, i wouldn't mind much. i want the car to speak for itself on the street, not the exhaust. i see you guys are getting a heat wave out there. try to stay cool and be safe.

 

Thank you very much...Oh ya I just LOVE clean black rides, the only problem is trying to keep them clean everyday

Black is just the best color period

I'm sure there has to be some sort of drift events where you are located.

Those events are soo much fun, and its a great experience to learn extreme car handling and to see what your car is capable of.