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Old 07-30-2006, 12:41 AM
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Default Will 2 JWT popchargers on a PE TT kit work well?

Hey guys, I have been posting a lot of questions here latey because my PE tt kit should be on the doorstep any day now.

I have a popcharger on my car right now and i was wondering if you guys think it would be a good idea to buy another popcharger (assuming the first one fits) and put them on the kit rather than the "air impulse" air intakes that come with the kit.

I was just thinking the JWT filters seem to perform so well and i have never heard of anyone using an air impulse filter for anything else besides the pe kit itself.

All feedback is appreciated,
Alex

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There is nothing wrong with using the PE air filters..they probably work just as well as the JWT. If the PE filters are used and are kinda dirty, im sure you could fit the JWT filters in there, there is decent space (unless JWT filters are huuge, never seen them in person). Good luck with the kit! Let me know how it turns out
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Originally Posted by BrokeZ
There is nothing wrong with using the PE air filters..they probably work just as well as the JWT. If the PE filters are used and are kinda dirty, im sure you could fit the JWT filters in there, there is decent space (unless JWT filters are huuge, never seen them in person). Good luck with the kit! Let me know how it turns out
They are pretty huge. I'm not familiar with the space allowed on the PETT kit, however...
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I would honestly just replace them with K&N filters. Just get the size and go to the K&N web site and match it up.
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really doubt you could fit them in the PE location. if this is a must for you scrap the PE piping all together and reroute it all with bigger piping . but then your talkin real big money. Im also trying to decide on a filter to use but im going to be relocating their position and replacing the intercooler/piping. let me know what you decide on going with
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eh, ill probably just end up using the air impulses to avoid extra work. From pics it looks like the Popchargers may fit though. I could be ghetto and have 1 pop charger and 1 air impulse lol. Of course i guess that would mean different air flows to each turbo and that might not be the best idea.
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Originally Posted by AParshall04
eh, ill probably just end up using the air impulses to avoid extra work. From pics it looks like the Popchargers may fit though. I could be ghetto and have 1 pop charger and 1 air impulse lol. Of course i guess that would mean different air flows to each turbo and that might not be the best idea.
It'll work but it wont look pretty. The difference between the two filters wont affect the airflow to the turbo. I wouldnt worry about that.
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pop chargers are too large for the original PE airfilter location...

the PE airfilter is a pretty big restriction if u plan on running big boost over 9+.. you're best bet would be opening up the air inlet into the turbos with custom piping-
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
you're best bet would be opening up the air inlet into the turbos with custom piping-
Chebosto have you done this? if so what type of gains did u see?
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Originally Posted by KTaylor
Chebosto have you done this? if so what type of gains did u see?
in the process of modifying the piping...

from one quick test, i got like nearly half more PSI of sustained boost into the engine from taking OFF the air filters when i was on the dyno-, just leaving the velocity stack at the end of it- but i would assume most turbos would be able to get more power w/ no restrictions like that...

i'll let you know after the piping is finished how much more gain you can get from modifying the air inlet and turbo charge pipes.
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
in the process of modifying the piping...

from one quick test, i got like nearly half more PSI of sustained boost into the engine from taking OFF the air filters when i was on the dyno-, just leaving the velocity stack at the end of it- but i would assume most turbos would be able to get more power w/ no restrictions like that...

i'll let you know after the piping is finished how much more gain you can get from modifying the air inlet and turbo charge pipes.


will do. i cant wait to get my car back and test/ retune it
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I been toying with this idea for my greddy system, not much room in the bay. How does the PE kit look for room? I was going to fab some pipe and route the filters above the intercooler. It is onhold till after my move into my castle next month.

RYan
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
pop chargers are too large for the original PE airfilter location...

the PE airfilter is a pretty big restriction if u plan on running big boost over 9+.. you're best bet would be opening up the air inlet into the turbos with custom piping-
Really Ches?

You think the filters are the limitation? The turbo design itself is a 45mm openign, hence the 45mm piping design (I thought). So you are redisning the piping? please tell me more about this, or call me when you can.

- Gurgen
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Originally Posted by GurgenPB
Really Ches?

You think the filters are the limitation? The turbo design itself is a 45mm openign, hence the 45mm piping design (I thought). So you are redisning the piping? please tell me more about this, or call me when you can.

- Gurgen

yea- been talking with howard about this- he says for bigger boost i gotta open it up, and make the filtration better.

also that Y section right before the Intercooler is a jam too.. i'm losing 3 psi thru : the charge pipe coming right out of the turbo, y collector, intercooler, and into the throttle body. i'm interested in seeing how your flexible pipes are doing. i know you related the filter else where--
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
yea- been talking with howard about this- he says for bigger boost i gotta open it up, and make the filtration better.

also that Y section right before the Intercooler is a jam too.. i'm losing 3 psi thru : the charge pipe coming right out of the turbo, y collector, intercooler, and into the throttle body. i'm interested in seeing how your flexible pipes are doing. i know you related the filter else where--
You mean a total of 3 psi drop measured between the turbo charge pipe and before the TB?

I happen to think that the filters are more than sufficient. It;s very important to relocate them for better/cooler air induction. Also, remember that I had that Y-piece refabbed (thanks to Tony of Motordyne), so i do not think I have any pressure drops now. I will be taking pressure measurements pre/post IC , pre-post the Y-piece to hopefully understand if/where the pressure drops are?

I also strongly feel that a further opened up exhaust will help, espicially the test pipes.

- Gurgen
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
in the process of modifying the piping...

from one quick test, i got like nearly half more PSI of sustained boost into the engine from taking OFF the air filters when i was on the dyno-, just leaving the velocity stack at the end of it- but i would assume most turbos would be able to get more power w/ no restrictions like that...

i'll let you know after the piping is finished how much more gain you can get from modifying the air inlet and turbo charge pipes.
Please keep us posted!
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
yea- been talking with howard about this- he says for bigger boost i gotta open it up, and make the filtration better.
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What type of air filteres are you goin with?

Originally Posted by GurgenPB
I happen to think that the filters are more than sufficient. It;s very important to relocate them for better/cooler air induction.
- Gurgen
where did you relocate your filters to?



Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
from one quick test, i got like nearly half more PSI of sustained boost into the engine from taking OFF the air filters when i was on the dyno-, just leaving the velocity stack at the end of it- but i would assume most turbos would be able to get more power w/ no restrictions like that...
Thats true, any turbo responds well to less restriction infront of the compressor inlet.


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