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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Would anyone have a link or pictures possibly? Im more of the do it yourself person that wont spend 5000$ on custom welded pipes and a 500$ turbo. I would rather do it my self, im intrested in pictures of the crossover pipe and the up pipe to the turbo and the down pipe location.

Adustable fuel pressure regulator, 70 pound injectors and that stuff. I need to make a list. And yes i have searched for the past month. i live in the desert in the middle of no where so there is no shop i can go to, and 3 350zs in this area....

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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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Let me get this right your planning on getting pictures of a ST kit and fabricating it yourself by copying another companies design. Thats not only illegal but
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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Would anyone have a link or pictures possibly? Im more of the do it yourself person that wont spend 5000$ on custom welded pipes and a 500$ turbo. I would rather do it my self, im intrested in pictures of the crossover pipe and the up pipe to the turbo and the down pipe location.

Adustable fuel pressure regulator, 70 pound injectors and that stuff. I need to make a list. And yes i have searched for the past month. i live in the desert in the middle of no where so there is no shop i can go to, and 3 350zs in this area....
If you're more of a "DIY guy" then you should be able to figure this out on your own.

Otherwise, I wouldn't bother. Oh, and the turbos used in the ST kits aren't $500 turbos, they're $1000 turbos.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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a used holset is 250$ ( a new holset is like 1500$).... its not illegal to see how they routed everything and go from there... Not like im going to be selling it.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Good luck with that buddy, let us know when you run out of money and buy a kit or blow your engine. Todd from built350zmotors is from NM, you should have turned that up in your search. If that isnt a good shop I dont know which one you will think is.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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I like your determination, but I have seen the kit, installed the TN kit myself, and I love to DIY. I wouldn't ever think of trying to tackle buildint a custom ST kit ont hese cars. In the case if the TN kit, it is a very tight space to work in. Trying to bend the tubes and weld them in such a way to fit all of the pipes, I guarantee that that you'll end up redoing many of the pipes at least 3 times due to interference issues.

You will be much better of buying the "tuner" kit. If you want to make changes later, change some of the pipes afterward.....basically you can reeingineer the kit, but you'll have a great starting point.

I have already though of how it may be possible to increase the tubing diamter on some of the exhaust pipes.

go download the install instructions from the TN website. you still won't get how close everything is.!!!!
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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a used holset is 250$ ( a new holset is like 1500$).... its not illegal to see how they routed everything and go from there... Not like im going to be selling it.

why would you go with such a cheap turbo on a 350z? Or a generally ghetto setup?

these aren't hondas.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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i love these posts
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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I would stay away from this by all means necessary. First off, unless you are someone like OverZealous who has a huge amount of resources avalible (via himself lol) then you are by no means ready for this.

Trust me!

Want to know why...

Because I had a custom turbo kit made and it is very hard to do if you do not get the proper people and do not have amazing skills yourself! Not to mention it ultimately lead to the ruining of my engine although that was not from the design of the turbo kit itself to be honest. Horrible tuning.

I gaurruntee that if you do not spend at least $5500 on a custom turbo kit (not including tuning and the necessary fuel and ECU upgrades) then you will not be successful... unless as mentioned above you have the resources as OZ does.

It has been made known that I will be tackling the single turbo setup again or am at leasting getting the detail down as of right now. However I have painstackingly been searching for the right people to do the job and I refuse to cut corners on this which I higly suggest you do.

As mentioned before there are tons of things which go into making a turbo kit. In my case I will have to be moving a number of key items on the engine in order to do what I want. But replicating another kit will be extremely hard.

Just a forewarning...
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Somethings to consider to make this a harder descision:

-Turbo size, A/R trim, bearing type, cooling method (oil/water)
-Turbo location (in the case of the APS ST you will need a means of returning oil to the pan so it does not sit cook in the turbo since you cannot count on gravity for oil scavenging purposes.
-Piping diameter for about every pipe. What power are you trying to reach? What size can fit in a certain area and can the maximum diamter meet your power goals? If you use too small of a turbo with too largre of piping will it increase lag?
-Method of joining pipes (flanged/v-band). Using the wrong method in relation to the material selection (next consideration) can lead to cracking of welds do to expansion and contraction.
-Material selection. Using mild steel will be more prone to cracking due to the its expansion and contraction characteristics where as 304 stainless steel will be much more suited.
-What else is affected by pipe routing? Will you be running a hot pipe near a fuel line? Percautions must be taken then so that not only will you have safety in mind but you will not rob yourself of power due too hot fuel which could also lead to detonation (kaboom!).
-Wastegate size and location. If you plan on running 700 whp (aside from the tons of other issues that will arise at that power level) you would never want to try controlling the turbo pressure with something like a Turbonetics Evolution wastegate which is rated for less. By doing so you could have boost spikes which again can lead to detonation or boosting past your tune which can lean out your A/F ratio which in turn can lead too... you guessed it... detonation!

You mentioned that you are in the middle of nowhere and I highly recommend that if you do not want to drive to the closest shop (even if it is 800 miles away) then you may not be ready to take on forced induction.

Keep in mind that unless you are familiar with tuning these cars you will more than likely not even want to fathom taking on the task of tuning it even if you do successfully build a DIY kit in which case you would have to travel to get it tuned anyways.

Here is a very useful thread on DIY turbo kits. I suggest you read it and take in all of the information that it has to offer as it may make you think otherwise or it may give you the confidence to keep persuing it.

Good luck!
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....=DIY+Turbo+Kit
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 04:28 AM
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Let me get this right your planning on getting pictures of a ST kit and fabricating it yourself by copying another companies design. Thats not only illegal but
it's not illegal to built a kit of another company as long as you don't sell it
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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I posted tons of pics in my TN install thread-search under my SN in this forum....
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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why dont' you get the install doc from turbneticsinc.com under tech data?
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