Ok. First off I hate this ****ing kit, and the people who make it, it has been nothing but a problem from the day I opened the box, missing parts, rude people (including other owners ), and lies from people who don’t have a clue. But that is not what this is about, so don’t get on here telling how great this kit is, or how great the people who make it are, because they suck! When I pull my motor to build it I will go with a different kit.

So yesterday I was driving home from the dyno (my 3rd time this week) and I was cruising at about 80 mph on the high way. Suddenly I notice white smoke coming from under the hood. So I pulled off the highway and noticed that my power steering was dead. I checked it and saw the reservoir was bone dry. I did not see any fluid in the bay, under the car, or in the wheel well. I figured it was my fault, I must have pinched a line when moving the cooler and it had been slowly leaking. So I fill it, turn the wheel a few times and my power steering is great again. I get about 10 miles down the road and no power steering again. So I take to my shop, put it on the lift, clean all the fluid off and I notice that the pipe coming off the driver’s side manifold is sitting on my power steering rack. It has either melted through, or worn through one of the metal hard lines and it now leaking like a sive. This was 9pm and there was no one I could call to find anything else.

I know the line need to be replaced, so this morning I call Nissan, they say its $480 because they don’t sell the line separately; I have to buy a full kit which includes a million line I don’t need. At this point I am fuming pissed because of all the **** I have had to deal with on this kit, so I call Amazon, our local spot for custom lines, to try to replace it with a steel braided line. They tell me that they believe Nissan uses non-standard fittings, and he won't be able to match them up.

Now I am furious, so I call turbonetics, BIG MISTAKE. First, as always, they tell me there kit is perfect and would not cause this, so I must have installed it wrong. Bull****!!! It is very easy to install, a monkey with a 100pc craftsman set could do it, and I have been turning wrenches for work, or by choice for well over a decade, and I am very competent. I fail to see how I could have bolted it on wrong. This is from the same people who told me that the z and g use different injectors, and that their kit makes more power on the stock exhaust than a 3-inch. I have dyno sheets to prove that wrong, I got almost 80-hp out of just disconnecting the down pipe, with no retune. Obviously these people have no clue what they are talking about.

So before I get off the phone, the guys tells me " Even IF I wanted to help you, I couldn't because you did not buy the kit directly from us", which again is total bull****.... That is some great customer service .... no matter where i bought it, they made it they should stand behind it, but they don’t. So here I am holding the bag on a $500 line because of a poorly engineered kit that a company wont stand behind because I did not buy directly form them because they were back ordered. BTW, I still have not gotten my over boost fix pipe I ordered almost 4 months ago either.


Does any one know if the fittings are non-standard? I can pull the line over the weekend and take down to see, but I need to take my car back to the dyno this weekend to get all the tuning straight, and I don’t want to wait till Monday to get this done. Does any one of an alternative I can use? Anything will help, my car is on lift, and I look like it will stay there until I can get this resolved. I know that it will be better to get a steel braided line, but I will put any band aid on it I can just to get me to the dyno with out running my pump or rack dry …

 

I CANT HELP YOu lol, b/c I really dont know much bout this BUT I feel you man. I have had nothing but problems on my car since I got this kit, and trust me every1 will stand behind it like its perfect. I til this day regret my decision to buy the TN kit, I hope things get better for you. Im right now stuck on the issue now that this turbo becomes worthless after 14 psi, and I have a built motor. I cant make any more power now b/c the turbo and the piping isnt good enough to make more. W/e and I agree on their customer service, It TOTALLY SUX. That reggie guy or w/e said he would help me and never got a call back from him, and overboost pipe HA lol, I am still acting like it doesnt exist b/c Ill never get it. GOOD LUCK getting your car fixed man, seems like a real hasssle

 

Which line are you talking about, is it one of the short ones that only go the steering rack, or the ones that run to and from the pump? I smashed one of the short ones that are just on the rack and was able to get a replacement for that part only for like $25 or something.

 

I JUST SAID in another thread that that happens, Its because the line is alowed to lay against the exhaust ---I installed a TN one time, I did it, and it was my fault. I didnt push that line over, BUT I fixed it by brazing the little hole and repositioning the line. Took me 20 minutes and didnt cost a dime

 

Nope never had that issue myself. As for fixing it I would replace it as any other way might cause another failure later on. I'm sorry that you aren't pleased with the answer you got but you are the first person on this board that I'm aware of to report that happening. The Greddy kit is notorious for that. BTW if the attitude you displayed here was how you talked to tech support did you exepct them to be overly helpful?

 

I know he didnt want to hear this but I have found the guys at TN very cool and helpful-----Now Vortech,,,, Lets not get into that !!! UGH

 

wow,this is the first time i have ever heard of bad cutomer service from tn.you must have really come off as being a total d/head for them to act that way.ill tell you if you ever came into my shop acting like an *** id boot you too.now im not dissing you at all but this is strange,it sounds like you effed up on the install and want to blame it on tn.

 

"I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!"
- Brick Tamland

 

Thank god cuz it sure smoked like a SOB. But it was a tuff piece to remove and install considering the lack of a lift. HAHA!

 

And I remember ---Lack of lift and no help ----Just a supervisor barking orders

 

Wow, well sorry you have problems. All I can say is you probably shouldn't reroute your power steering fluid line next to hot exhaust piping and expect it not to leak. I don't get how you condemn Turbonetics resopnse complain that it's not an install problem, because it IS. These kits are simple to install, but no form of FI is completely idiot proof. If you do go with another kit, I can see you having problems with that as well, because the installs for those kits are even more complicated and prone to problems if not done correctly.

Blaming the kit and customer service because you routed a line to close to the piping just makese no sense, and really, if I were a CSR and someone came with the attitude I see here, I wouldn't want to help them either.

 

Oh, and if you think it's a problem with this kit, maybe you should look at this other thread:

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/196923-tt-z-power-steering-fluid-leak.html

This was on an APS TT kit. Once again, I repeat, this is not a KIT problem, but an INSTALL problem. You can expect to have these sorts of issues with any FI setup - it's part of the game. The only way to combat them is to make sure you take all the precautions on install and get it right.

 

Tell it like it is! It is an install problem. We figured that out ourselves. But its only natural for someone to automatically blame the Company before they blames themselves.

 

it's easy to point fingers when you're the douche who makes a mistake that breaks something and you want someone to cough up the dough for it.

I've never heard of this problem....and all those pipes are adjustable in some way shape or form to avoid that from happening.

not TN's fault you're inept.....sorry.

 

There's your first problem.

You should have considered this before buying this kit. It was never intended to be pushed beyond 14psi. You should know that turbo sizing on a single turbo setup is *extremely* critical compared to the twins due to the smalller range of efficiency allowed by one single turbo. You picked the wrong kit for your goals, easy as that (that is, until the stage 2 kit is ready).

The main problem with this kit compared to others on the market (APS, for instance), is that turbonetics allows and encourages people that have no business touching the kit to install it on their own. Rather than look at their own install problems, these same people would rather complain and blame the hardware rather than the real problem (their own work).

This is where APS is smart, in this sense, as they all but force you to take it to a dealer (which has experience installing dozens of these kits) to do the install, and avoid the whole CSR issue of people complaining about something they don't understand. However, APS doesn't have much support beyond this. This is where the main difference between the service model for these two companies.

As it stands, Turbonetics reps are required to put up with complaints like this on a daily basis just because people attempt to install turbos that really have no business owning one in the first place.

 

ok..well since it was my fault , please explain to me how else am i supposed to mount the pipe that comes off the drivers side manifold? and how did i reroute anything.It was the hard lines tha are mounted to the rack. It seems as though i am not the only with the problem , but you jerks are sure quick to blame me and tell me it was my fault.Not knowing a thing about me, or my mechanical abilites. THE PIPE ONLY MOUNTS ONE WAY, THERE IS NO WAY TO ADJUST IT, IT ONLY BOTLS ON ONE WAY GENIUS, AND THERE WAS NO MENTION IN THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT THIS MAY HAPPEN AND TO BEND BACK THE POWER STEERING LINES ON THE RACK ......but thanks for trashing me and calling me all sorts of names and tryng to belittle me personally, again, that sure helps me alot with the struggle i am going through. I am so glad that i have a loyal group of fellow enthusist that i can turn to for there help in times of need.


as i stated earlier , i dont care what you think about tn, or me, all i want is to fix my issue , and if you dont have a fix , STAY OUT OF MY THREAD .......


You guys are some are some people who rather stick up for an incompetent company rather than a fellow enthusist who is asking for help. I bought the tn kit, so at one time i believed it was the best option, and i bought it. I did not work for me, at all, and every time i share that you trash the hell out of me , do i come on all your success post and post about all my issues , no, so why do you do that to me ? Next you will be talking about my mother .i am happy that you love tn, and think reggie is great, but my opinion is just as valid as yours right ?Or are you in some better than me ,that makes your opinion better than mine. I am glad that we are all local, because i can wait for the day we are at the same meet, the same show, or same event, because i would love for one your keyboard commandos to call me inept, stupid, or a douche bag to my face, because that is extremly disrespect full.

 

Had the TN for a year now without any problem well except the AC blowing hot air :LOL: I track the car 4 times this Summer and did plenty of highway runs and never had any power steering fluid problem. As for CS and REggie, I told him I bought the kit of off someone else and he just sends me the overboost pipe, the new version down pipe with no questions ask. So far...There are no FI kits that don't have issues.

 

where did i reroute any thing????maybe you should read before you but into my post. it was the stock placement , i did not move anything , nor was i advised that i needed too, maybe you should stop sucking tn's dick and accept the fact that what is in you car is not the holy grail of all turbo kits.This is flaw in the kit, you cannot adjust where the stock manifold places the pipe.....but your right , i am sure its all my fault, for not just buying a better kit int he first place.....I did not ask for your opinion, i asked for help in getting my power steering up and running, so if you cannot offer any help , then butt out.....thnaks

 

i was considering this, but i honestly feel like it would happen again on a hard line. i think i would feel way more comfortable with a steel braided teflon line , because i can route that around the pipe, because there is no way to move the pipe, it mounts right to the manifold and the only way to move it would be to slot the mounting holes that bolt to the manifold, and i dont think that seal very well, and probably not flow to well either.was it easy to braze it, what materal did you use to seal it with ? i amy try to go pull it and do it right now. Thanks for actually trying to help instead of belittling me like almost everyone else.

 

So I take to my shop, put it on the lift, clean all the fluid off and I notice that the pipe coming off the driver’s side manifold is sitting on my power steering rack. It has either melted through, or worn through one of the metal hard lines and it now leaking like a sive. if you look at the bottom of the tranny, you see 2 metal lines, that run up and behinnd the cross brace. It is about 5-7 inches long , with 2 bends in it and has a AN fitting on each end. right where it bends around the crossbrace is where it is rubbing, and where it is leaking .



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