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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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what was up with your Z at the time attack at Button-willow??
Sweet.

Was testing the car on Tanner Faust's Suspension, Camber, and Tires. Wow, he likes the car a little different than I do that is for sure.

At any-rate, pushed it a little to hard on lap 2 with cold Toyos, spun, I hit the wall. No big deal, still finished the lap with a 2:20 time. Rubbed some tires and a few dent and scratches. $750 at paint and body.

All fixed and was at Willow Spring Yesterday running strong back on my set-up.

How are you?

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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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You were testing Tanner Faust's drifting suspension, but on your personal car?
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
You were testing Tanner Faust's drifting suspension, but on your personal car?
Tanner drove his car for the Super Street Time Attack and made a bunch of changes to the suspension throughout the day to suit his driving style. He was also hitting the rumble strips hard enough to knock the turbo piping off every time lol .
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
You were testing Tanner Faust's drifting suspension, but on your personal car?
Fun Day. Pleasure Working with Tanner.

I drove the car at the End of the day.

I had fun trying to figure out his suggested set-up.

Then I tweaked the car.

All good. Fixed Now and ran great at Willow Yesterday.

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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 350ZNV
Tanner drove his car for the Super Street Time Attack and made a bunch of changes to the suspension throughout the day to suit his driving style. He was also hitting the rumble strips hard enough to knock the turbo piping off every time lol .
ahhh, ... we were wondering why the car never made a full lap! LOL
was a tough day!
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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ahhh, ... we were wondering why the car never made a full lap! LOL
was a tough day!
Yeah, that is why I drove the car to see if I could duplicate the problem. I reviewed the In Car Video and DAMN, Tanner drove the bumps as if it was a Rally car almost getting Air - Time and Time again. Had no idea that someone would ride the S Turn bumps so hard. At least we were there.

Really, this was a last moment deal as Tanner called me the day before, "Hey Man, do you have a car I can drive?" and Yes, I obliged.

NOTE:
My Yellow Car is still a total street car, full interior, 1000 Watt Stereo, Air, Etc.

If the car is to be competitive and be able to compete with 800 WHP Skylines and Full Race GT2s, We need to shed weight and tune at least an additional 100 WHP.

Weight:

Tanner's AEM Drift Car weighs on 2850 with him in it. However, they cut the crap out of the car to loose that weight.

Still fun and I am going to drive the Redline in December in the car.

Thanks for asking.

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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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I was just tring to understand. So you were driving Tanner's car...or your own car?

How did his settings differ from yours?
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mraturbo
Yeah, that is why I drove the car to see if I could duplicate the problem. I reviewed the In Car Video and DAMN, Tanner drove the bumps as if it was a Rally car almost getting Air - Time and Time again. Had no idea that someone would ride the S Turn bumps so hard. At least we were there.

Really, this was a last moment deal as Tanner called me the day before, "Hey Man, do you have a car I can drive?" and Yes, I obliged.

NOTE:
My Yellow Car is still a total street car, full interior, 1000 Watt Stereo, Air, Etc.

If the car is to be competitive and be able to compete with 800 WHP Skylines and Full Race GT2s, We need to shed weight and tune at least an additional 100 WHP.

Weight:

Tanner's AEM Drift Car weighs on 2850 with him in it. However, they cut the crap out of the car to loose that weight.

Still fun and I am going to drive the Redline in December in the car.

Thanks for asking.

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well, that's where super street went wrong is by not Amplifying on the rules NASA created for their Time Attack series...... not enough classes, .... and having a friken production Race car out there, or stripped out "street cars" totally defies the point of a "tuner" based time attack. That's why there will not be another American Touge, b/c the fu<king american's screw up the whole point of what was/is being done with the tuner cars and the touge and time attack series....
they just need to have more classes, and better separation between cars with "different" configurations.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
I was just tring to understand. So you were driving Tanner's car...or your own car?
How did his settings differ from yours?
Sorry Sharif for lack of Info.

This is my Yellow Z.

JWT 700s
VRT Suspension
Enkei Race 9.5x10.5
Sparco Seat
Ap Racing Brakes
VRT Cooling
VRT Front and Rear Camber/Toe
And More...

Dynoed and Tuned for Clean 500 WHP/Torque.

Changes:
Tanner raised the car almost 2 inches.
I run Hoosiers, his sponsor is Toyo so we changed the tires using their 275/35/18 and 305/35/18
Too much Side-wall IMO.
5 degrees camber in front and very little in rear.

I ran the car at Button Willow and Calspeedway weeks before with a perfect set-up. Then all changed yet I was driving the car as if it was back on my set-up.

Was allot of fun. Then I wrecked the car. Sweet. Exceuses yet Understand This: Too sloppy of suspension after raising it 2 inches (he is a Drifter and Likes the height?), too much camber in the front and Toyos AREN'T Hoosiers that is for sure.

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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
well, that's where super street went wrong is by not Amplifying on the rules NASA created for their Time Attack series...... not enough classes, .... and having a friken production Race car out there, or stripped out "street cars" totally defies the point of a "tuner" based time attack. That's why there will not be another American Touge, b/c the fu<king american's screw up the whole point of what was/is being done with the tuner cars and the touge and time attack series....
they just need to have more classes, and better separation between cars with "different" configurations.
You are correct. Too few classes. No way to compete with Race Specific cars with a true street car.

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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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those are hoosiers in the pics...??
If you think that his camber settings are weird, .... what do you usually like to drive on? IMO and experience, running under 1 in the rear and about 3-5 in the front is perfect on these cars....
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
those are hoosiers in the pics...??
If you think that his camber settings are weird, .... what do you usually like to drive on? IMO and experience, running under 1 in the rear and about 3-5 in the front is perfect on these cars....
Thanks for the questions.

Camber was an issue (usually run 3 in front and 3 in rear), yet, The main difference was the Ride Height CHANGE and the fact that the Toyos are a totally different ride, tread-wear, and were 35 series instead of 30 series Hoosiers. Remember, I only put in a lap and a half.

I was stupid for pushing the car so hard without getting used to the cars new characteristics without taking at least 2-3 laps. Yet I wasn't driving the car to get a lap time, but to try to duplicate a Turbo Pipe Slip PROBLEM we had experienced all day day. Didn't realize until later it was occurring due to Tanner hitting the Bumps Very Very Hard.

He is a great driver and I would love to build him a testing and Dedicated Time Attack Car in the future.

Note: Those aren't the rims and tires Tanner was running on. Pict with Different Rims and Toyos. At this time the minor wreck is no big deal, she was back and running at Big Willow this past Wednesday and will be running four more events within the next 30 days.

Peace.

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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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RA-1's then?
you guys run -3 in the rear?? damn, ... have you really tried running under one in the rear? I like the -3 or -4 in the front, but you've got to put some more tire down out back...
.. you should give it a shot with the camber and ride height settings again, ... except take it easy...
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
RA-1's then?
you guys run -3 in the rear?? damn, ... have you really tried running under one in the rear? I like the -3 or -4 in the front, but you've got to put some more tire down out back...
.. you should give it a shot with the camber and ride height settings again, ... except take it easy...
Depending on how low the car is, Negative Camber is sometimes difficult to get perfect. The lower the car is, the more the camber.

You sound like you like to track, give me a PM with an email and I will update you when we are traveling if you wish to join us.

Thanks for the discussion.

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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mraturbo
Depending on how low the car is, Negative Camber is sometimes difficult to get perfect. The lower the car is, the more the camber.

You sound like you like to track, give me a PM with an email and I will update you when we are traveling if you wish to join us.

Thanks for the discussion.

M
yeah, that's one reason not to go so low for the track, you can't keep the toe out and camber under -1 (on these cars). the other reason is to let your suspension actually do it's job, if you have a Good strut/coilover for the track, it will be able to Perform at a more optimum level as it's designed. (allowing for travel) I usually trade off the camber to keep my toe at zero.

I love racing, but I am not able to get out to the track like I would like to ... maybe after I retire.... Maybe this next year I will see you guys out there...
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
yeah, that's one reason not to go so low for the track, you can't keep the toe out and camber under -1 (on these cars). the other reason is to let your suspension actually do it's job, if you have a Good strut/coilover for the track, it will be able to Perform at a more optimum level as it's designed. (allowing for travel) I usually trade off the camber to keep my toe at zero.

I love racing, but I am not able to get out to the track like I would like to ... maybe after I retire.... Maybe this next year I will see you guys out there...
You can ride along. Or Drive one of my cars?

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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mraturbo
You can ride along. Or Drive one of my cars?

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I may be able to go to the Time Attack at ButtonWillow on the 2nd and 3rd.... you guys going?
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
I may be able to go to the Time Attack at ButtonWillow on the 2nd and 3rd.... you guys going?
Yep, we will be there......
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
I may be able to go to the Time Attack at ButtonWillow on the 2nd and 3rd.... you guys going?
FGor sure.

Call me or PM to discuss.

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