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Old 10-22-2006, 07:00 AM
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Default 300zxTT vs 350zTT

i know this is old.

but no one talk about a 300zxTT with a built engine and big turbos
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a 350zTT with a built engine and a big turbos like APS kit or speedforce,
ultimate racing twins or greddy TD05.

what i know allso that 350z makes big power with les boost. so what do u think guys,

can we say that VQ35 can put out a better power output then a 300zxTT ?

again, im talking about moded vs moded
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:50 AM
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The 350Z will have better low end with it being a 3.5 vs a 3.0 plus the 350Z, even though you will still have traction issues, is better than the 300 at putting it to the ground.
Old 10-22-2006, 07:51 AM
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300ZX has a lot of wheel hop i hear from a owner friend
Old 10-22-2006, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by plumpzz
300ZX has a lot of wheel hop i hear from a owner friend
Tons, even with just 315RWHP that I have in first gear the rear end hops like crazy once boost kicks in, it got better with a strutbar next step to help with be subframe bushings but that makes the car uncivilized, too stiff and you feel/hear every pebble on the road.
Old 10-22-2006, 09:58 AM
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but dont't forget gus that 350z makes near 600whp with just 15psi with after markt turbos, 300zx makes 600whp with 19-23 psi on after markets
turbos

that means vq35 makes more power in any rpm
Old 10-22-2006, 10:22 AM
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Your statment isn't universally true, but its true for teh VQ vs VG. VQ is a better motor overall. Bigger displacement and more torque. I still think the VG sounds better f
Old 10-22-2006, 01:11 PM
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video of my buddies built 300tt. 600hp if I remember. Its fast but the traction kills it like it does with the 350z;..

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...6200de6ddb.htm

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350z gets plenty traction. the truth of the matter is that independant suspension makes it hard to get traction.
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who is faster with turbos ????

i didnt see 300zx doing 6.63 sec in 1/4 mile

allso i didnt see a 300zxtt putting 500whp with just 12 psi at 4500RPM like a 350z.

u guys who says that 300zxtt are faster. why ? what is ur 1/4 mile numbers and what boost? what whp ???

allso the weight of a 300zxTT is 3525lbs. and thats more than the 350z.

i dunno how can u guys say that 300zx are faster !!!
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Originally Posted by q8pianist
who is faster with turbos ????

i didnt see 300zx doing 6.63 sec in 1/4 mile

allso i didnt see a 300zxtt putting 500whp with just 12 psi at 4500RPM like a 350z.

u guys who says that 300zxtt are faster. why ? what is ur 1/4 mile numbers and what boost? what whp ???

allso the weight of a 300zxTT is 3525lbs. and thats more than the 350z.

i dunno how can u guys say that 300zx are faster !!!
Did I miss something? who is saying the 300ZX is faster?? The nice thing about the 300ZX is its iron block and abiity to do 550+RWHP on stock internals.
Old 10-22-2006, 06:18 PM
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werd iron blocks help them hella thats the main perk actually. But one that that sucks is HICAS that thing needs to go to hell glad they didnt put that in the 350 or else u would see a hella of a diy in the suspension forums on how to disable it.
Old 10-23-2006, 05:46 AM
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still i didnt see a 300zxTT doing 1/4 mile like a 350z with abuilt engine and a big turbos.

i read befor that jim wolf says that the 350z has a better power output.

thats JWT so that means 350z with turbos are faster.

n e way the point of all this, is that ill race a 300zx with a TD06 20G

and ill post the vid for u guys very soon

we both have built engines, and both have big turbos.

im running the ultimate-racing turbo kit T3/T4 ballbaring turbos stage 3

its going to be from a roll 40mph.

wish for me good luck
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Go on a 300ZX website and ask the same questions and you will get ***** slapped by how many high horsepower Z32's there are. and how fast they are, if you are looking for a 300ZX on built motor it will be a serious one as they can go close to 600RWHP on stock internals, I know personally of one at 554RWHP on stock internals and 22 psi and it is a beast.

http://www.twinturbo.net
Old 10-23-2006, 04:13 PM
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I had a Z32 that made 410 rwhp on stock turbos and stock injectors. That should give you an idea of the potential of the Z. However, overall the 350Z/G35 is a better car than the Z32 was. Better handling, better brakes, better creature comforts, and really, a solid, higher potential engine.

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Old 10-23-2006, 08:57 PM
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which is better you say? The answer is whoever has the deeper pocket. Obviously the z32 is cheaper to mod because the engine comes forged and built for turbos. But after xxx amount of horsepower all deals are off. Same goes for the 350z. Stock vs stock motor and not mod it i will take a z33 motor. More torque for daily driving.

Lets put it this way, both are great motors. VG = past and the VQ = future. Both can be single or twin turbo. vq= 3.5l and vg = 3.0l. Obviously the vq has the upper hand sorta speak due to displacement but to say its superior the the vg we can't say. Only time can tell however it does look more and more promising by the months as more people are will to invest and venture out to achieve higher numbers. I also wanted to note that the 350z JGTC car has a vg motor. Why didn't they do a vq? Because I think nissan themselves were not sure how reliable the vq was as far as high power longitivy. Or is it because they are limited to only 3.0l?

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Old 10-23-2006, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by o snap its eric
I also wanted to note that the 350z JGTC car has a vg motor. Why didn't they do a vq? Because I think nissan themselves were not sure how reliable the vq was as far as high power longitivy. Or is it because they are limited to only 3.0l?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_VQ_engine#VQ30DETT

The twin-turbo VQ30DETT is an engine used in Nissan's race cars, primarily in the Super GT (formerly the JGTC). First used on the Skyline GT-R race cars during the 2003 season, this engine currently powers the Fairlady Z race cars - homologation rules allow them to use the VQ30DETT in lieu of the stock VQ35DE. Race output of this engine is estimated at around 480 ps or approximately 473 hp (353 kW). A road legal version of VQ30DETT is one of the engines rumored to power the 2007 Nissan GT-R.

The VQ30DETT is used in:

* 2003 Skyline GT-R JGTC race cars
* 2004 Fairlady Z JGTC race cars
* 2005 Fairlady Z Super GT race cars
* 2006 Fairlady Z Super GT race cars
I believe the GT500 car uses a VQ30DETT and the GT300 car uses a VQ35DE (N/A).
Old 10-24-2006, 03:27 AM
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when we race we will know
Old 11-13-2006, 11:44 AM
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When I shut up the local punk from a roll, I'll post the video. His SN is Ahmads350z, and my VG30DETT is going to bi*ch-slap him into the stone age. =)

Carry on.
Old 11-13-2006, 10:19 PM
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Well their are 100% stock internal Z32s making over 650RWHP. With built enignes the VG has shown capable of near 1500HP. There were low 7 second drag Zs before the 350Z was ever even released. This paticular VG dyno'd at 1345RWHP with twin T72 turbos:

A twinturbo.net member is currently building his drag Z32 with a similar setup though with bigger T78 turbos and shooting for 1400+RWHP and 6 second 1/4 miles.
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Can't really compared a lower compression 3.0 factory turbo motor vs a high compression factory NA 3.5 motor. Of course the VQ will make more power at lower boost.


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