he already has a Stillen Stage 2 ...

 

Doh! For some reason I understood that he wanted to buy a Stillen sc and later get the TN ST.

 

nah he has stillen stage 2... he wants to go stage 4 or get a TN kit with a built motor..

which i think its a waste on both ends

 

Your right I just want something that is made for the Z. I am not looking to make gobs of horsepower just a signature car.

 

Well I am a bit confused. I thought the purpose of a built motor is to protect your internal or keep your engine from blowing. I know there is not much hP gain from internals, only peace of mind. So how am I limiting myself if I upgrade my internal and choose to add an TN. I cannot add too much pwer with a 5AT. You may be right with doing it right the first time, but I like taking baby steps.

 

if you got deep pockets.. then yeah go with baby steps... some of us just don't like re-inventing the wheel

 

I look at it this way. I am 46 never driven a FI car or tlaked about it sinced I bought my Z. I think it would of been a bit extreme to go all out without knowing what to expect. There are not many FI Z in the NW that I could of gotten a trail run before making my decision.

I would not call it deep pockets. Hobbies can be expensive or cheap. FI is an expensive hobby. Some guys spend more that me and you put together until they reach their goal. It might of been differnet for me if I had driven a turbo and SC Z before hand. I am satisfied with my choice and leaving that room for improvement is proably what is going to cost me.

 

Because many people who upgrade to F/I take their car to the track.

Because having a lot of torque can make daily driving a lot more fun.

Because (although I don't approve) a lot of people like to street race.

 

Yes I am aware they take the car to the track. I guess saying its retared is a bit extreme, that was me venting. Each time to a person takes their car to the track afterwards they find ways to improve it. I would like to take my car to the track but that is even more money to spend. It is an expensive hobby and racing is all about going faster in the least amount of time.

 

Sorry - but I am confussed, you stated that you have the money to spend on a engine build and new FI system, but you don't have any money for the track and you would like to go.
Why not save your engine build money, and spend it on track time, a good way to start is HPDE and you will have a lot of fun! And guess what, you will find that it is the nut behind the wheel that needs tightening - not the car.

 

I agree with MoodDude

why make the argument that going to the track is too expensive when it costs at most a few hundred $$ each time...? The F/I plans you're talking about are many many thousands of $$, way more than taking the car to the track a few times a year...

You can have PLENTY of fun at the track with the mods listed in your sig right now!

Plus many events are not even competitive, they are just for fun! (High performance driving clinic, street legal day at the drag strip, etc)

 

i am just saying.. if you have the money to build the motor.. then buy some twins and enjoy the power

 

Wired and MoodDude, if you two were in my squad you would be doing push-ups rightnow for not paying attention to detail. My quote is, "I would like to take my car to the track but that is even more money to spend." Where does it state that I say it is too expensive? Where did I write I do not have money to go to the track? Anyways.

For a little more clarity, if I were to add the internals, take my car to the track, I would have to spend more money to get the car just right. There is nothing wrong with that but I am not planning on going into the racing business. Maybe 25 years ago. Trust me I would love to go to the track, but I know where it is going to lead me. I think my car is too small for TV,VCR, and bed, that is where I will be living if I push my wife overboard.

Another downside about going to the track here in WA state is there are not as many tuners here as there are elsewhere. Nissan can only do so much. Like Doug said just do the internals and go Twin Turbo.

One last note, there are very few military men or women that are rich and trust me I am not one of them. I do invest wisely and I do know when to stop investing. 15gs spent in your house is a better investment than 15gs in your car. One is for pleaser and the other is a necessity. Sorry for the confusion. Do not want to come off like some Spoiled rich kid. This stie has been helpful in helping me go as far as I have, by no means do I want to come off like I can change FI kits seasonally. That would be nice but cost efficient.