After some thought and maybe some input I am thinking about upgrading my internals. I leaning heavily towards Nismo Cams and the low compression set. I am also going to include the stage 4 Stillen as part of the process. I know there are other options and no one probably has Nismo internals. Just wanted to share the information and listen to any suggestions.

 

Honestly and most will agree with me--->You could buy a MUCH better piston/rod combo than anything Nismo sells for much less. Arias ED/Eagle/Pauter come to mind. These are proven components that have done well with whp's numbers the Stillen can only dream of. That leads me to another thing, IMO it would be an absolute waste to run a Stillen on a built block, you will never seen more than 350-360whp @ stock compression, less with a low comp motor (and thats pushing it) and for the money spent you will not be happy with that-especially on an auto. Yo uwould have spent $10K + on parts/labor easy and you'd be lucky to run 12's... If your building I highly recommend you look at a twin turbo kit....good luck.

 

Get higher compression pistons since the Stillen SC does't push much psi. I'd go 9.5:1 if I had that kit, heck I'm gonna do 9.5:1 with the Greddy kit and look at boosting 10-12psi on pump gas when I get to the point where I rebuild my motor.

If you do go Stillen, you might consider talking to Boulder Nissan as they have custom pullies for beyond stage 4 boost, but of course the blower will probably not be in it's effeciency range so it may be a tradeoff.

 

+1 the stillen is maxed out and the only way to get more power is to dump it and go twins.now if you built the motor and used nitrous thats a different story.you would have to dump the stillens fmu,7th injector,upgrade the injectors and get a utech.time the nitrous to come in at higher rpm,s and it would be a beast.

 

So from what I am reading it best to just go with the stage 4, keep the stock internals or look at using a higher compression.

 

No you're looking at staying Stillen stage 4 w/ stock internals or upgrade to a built internals engine with twin turbo. One costs more but in the end, the HP/dollar spent is very strongly biased toward the twin turbo setup

 

I wouldnt even build (if possible) on a Stage 4 Stillen...

 

+1

I've had the Stillen Stage 4 for about 6 months now (on stock block). The setup is a blast, but there's no way I spent the $ to upgrade internals if I was going to stick with this. I've yet to hear of anyone wringing more than ~350 HP out of this kit (and I don't know that many are close to this). If you're planning on spending that kind of $ on internals, definitely look into TT.

 

who make 9.5:1 CR?

 

Any piston manufacturer can make you any compression/bore you want-all you need is 4-6 weeks wait time and $$$$

 

Ok I am convinced. The stage 2 is fun for me and i was planning on the turbonetics kits down the road. The stage 4 may be enough for me since I do not track and it is just for a extention of my Z.

With the stage 4 do any have a valve body upgrade. Thi sstie has bee n helpful again and thanks for the inro. You saved me about 6 grand.

 

This is retarded. Do you enjoy pissing money away? Pick one kit and go with that kit. Why buy a kit to just end up buying another one later down the road? Stillen stage 2 and TN ST are not that far off in price. I don't get it.

 

What are your HP goals? Not sure I follow your rational.

 

and the TN will get leaps and bounds more hp and torque for that same amount.

I might have a stillen stage 3 buddy of mine switching over to turbonetics in a little while haha

 

From the sounds of it, it seems like you want exclusivity. I could be wrong. But why do you want Nismo internals? As Alberto said, you can get MUCH better internals for less money. With Aesthetic modifications, yes exclusivity would be nice. But for reliability modifications, I'd trust something that's PROVEN.

Good luck.

 

Goodluck Rick.

Take care man.

M

 

FI period is retarded if you want to be precise. Why modify an engine to go 60 mph. If I wanted to change my kit every year that is my choice and whaat I spend is my choice. If you plan your life right money will never be an issue. And when you get my age you should be able to do and get whatever you want. Hell I did not second guess myself when I spent 5gs on a plasma TV. You just have to live within your means.

In the beginning I was more worried about the warrranty on the engine and now that I actually felt the pull in the Z, I think the TN would be just on time. I will get my monies worth out of the Stillen but life is all about choice

 

Thanks man.

 

you can always call Vinny Ten @ performance motorsports for some great rods and pistons...he used 9.5:1 on all of his motors(street and race) and has a very special (unbreakable) wrist pin for them too.... they are a vendor here and can be reached @ 516.942.2996 just tell vinny you spoke to me(noah) so that he will pick up the phone...i mean his rods and pistons handle 1600 hp and 6 second runs....and have been test in a quite a few customer's car with tremendous success....the same rods and pistons are going into Tanner FOust's AEM 350Z for next season and he is also building Chris Forsburg's Titan motor for his 350Z....even if you don't buy his stuff he is always willijng to give you an honest answer

 

so let me get this straight...

you have a stillen kit.. and you want to build your motor..

so you then you decide you want to get a TN kit with a built motor..

looks like you are limiting yourself over and over...

ever heard of doing right once?

i don't care what the TN guys say about stage 1.5, 2, 3, 600.... there is only 1 TN kit available.. and you are going to limit yourself with that and a built motor..

either keep your motor untouched... or go twins.. it makes no sence building a motor with anything other than twins