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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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I will be going FI soon, already have my shop lined out and all of that stuff, but anyways, my question. How much do you guys think someone would have to spend for a fully built motor, and TT kit capable of.. say 600hp? Someone said around 20k, but I wanna know what you guys think.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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20K sounds about right.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Just a quick rough guess - all may not be neccessary, so consult an expert but:

TT "tuner" kit: 6500
Fuel: 2000
Fcon package: 3500
Built engine: 6600
Clutch: 1000-2000


There is a low ball 20k in parts alone, not to mention spark plugs, maybee axles, you will need wider wheels/tires to put down the power, gauges, perhaps a new lsd, installation, tuning...long list there.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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And once you get it moving.. you'll need to upgrade your stopping power... stock brakes will not cut it.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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And once you get it moving.. you'll need to upgrade your stopping power... stock brakes will not cut it.
At any given speed, it takes the same amount of braking force to stop a 3400 lb 300 hp vehicle as it does a 3400 lb 600 hp vehicle.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Yeah, I agree about the brakes. Thanks for the input guys.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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yep......20K is a good est. for all that work.....if u want the power....u gotta pay
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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u wanna buy my TN kit?? lol n yeah around 20K sounds right
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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There's a member selling a built motor with a JWT TT along with the install and tune for 15,000.Check out the private classifieds!!You have to give him your stock motor.Check it out
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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20K is a good estimate for 600rwhp. Any higher, you'll likely have to pay a BIG premium.

As you go up in power, the cost multiplies exponentially.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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dont forget install, tuning and troubleshooting
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arm, leg, first child, and left nut sounds abotu right
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Originally Posted by bailey bill
At any given speed, it takes the same amount of braking force to stop a 3400 lb 300 hp vehicle as it does a 3400 lb 600 hp vehicle.
True, however the 600 hp vehicle will tend to reach high speeds faster therefore will likely be stopping harder and more often.

Plus is you want to be technical the 600hp will weigh marginally more.. haha...
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you only need bigger brakes if you track the car and are going to be stopping repeatedly from higher speed. Otherwise stock brakes are fine for stopping for stop signs/lights from 45mph out on the street
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Most people don't drop $20K into a car to do 45mph between Starbucks runs...
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At any given speed, it takes the same amount of braking force to stop a 3400 lb 300 hp vehicle as it does a 3400 lb 600 hp vehicle.
but the car will way slightly more. and will have a much increased rate of acceleration, the cause for a need in increased deceleration??? well because like the rest of us hes probably gonna go a bit faster than he should, and probably gonna floor it and come up to things a bit quicker than hes used to. it would be nice to have better brakes to compensate for the adrenaline urged speeding around town.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:05 AM
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100 lbs heavier is not going to require a new BBK - that's like saying to your girlfriend "no don't get in the car with me, cause then I'll have to buy a new set of bigger brakes"

BBK is only needed for repeated track braking from 80+mph to hard stopping to 30mph over and over again within 8 seconds of each other for at least 4 minutes.

Where on a public street can you do that? Maybe if you're driving downhill on a canyon road at 4am...

besides, just get some more aggressive brake pads and high temp brake fluid and that'll raise your fade limit a lot
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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Will they hurt? no
Do you NEED them for street driving? no

Acceleration is simply the derivative of velocity, aka the change in speed over time. The only two factors that would affect the decceleration of a car are the speed nd the time given. If he goes similar speeds and gives himself similar amounts of time to stop, the decceleration will be more or less the same.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
100 lbs heavier is not going to require a new BBK - that's like saying to your girlfriend "no don't get in the car with me, cause then I'll have to buy a new set of bigger brakes"

BBK is only needed for repeated track braking from 80+mph to hard stopping to 30mph over and over again within 8 seconds of each other for at least 4 minutes.

Where on a public street can you do that? Maybe if you're driving downhill on a canyon road at 4am...

besides, just get some more aggressive brake pads and high temp brake fluid and that'll raise your fade limit a lot

I think the idea is that you want better braking with BBK, if you stick with stock it will be the same as before probably, but even with stock power the stock brakes aren't that good...
NOw since when yoau re FI, youa re more "happy" accelerating, you want better brakes to improve the braking...the concept is of bbk if youa re FI is nto becaus eyoua re "heavier" but to have better braking capabilities with he "new" driving habbits you may have because of the turbo.
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
I think the idea is that you want better braking with BBK, if you stick with stock it will be the same as before probably, but even with stock power the stock brakes aren't that good...
NOw since when yoau re FI, youa re more "happy" accelerating, you want better brakes to improve the braking...the concept is of bbk if youa re FI is nto becaus eyoua re "heavier" but to have better braking capabilities with he "new" driving habbits you may have because of the turbo.
thats waht im trying to say.
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