Merry Xmas from Forged - Built Motor Greddy TT 5AT FCON +
Originally Posted by BrianLG35C
Congrats Ron on a fatanstic build and beautiful Z!
Awesome numbers with a 5AT on a conservative DD dyno. Come on, now it's the G's turn for a little attention.
Awesome numbers with a 5AT on a conservative DD dyno. Come on, now it's the G's turn for a little attention.
Originally Posted by phunk
very nice job guys. looks like a balanced car. I hope you have big brakes or plans for them soon!
Getting a clean dyno graph from an automatic car is almost impossible with most transmissions. You have to deal with a graph of just the higher RPM. The same reasons can make it really hard to tune the low rpm and midrange also, but since Sharif tuned it im sure he had very good base maps he has made to start from that were right on anyway - and of course the FCON has closed loop self learning.
No love for the fuel system? Whats are you running?
Getting a clean dyno graph from an automatic car is almost impossible with most transmissions. You have to deal with a graph of just the higher RPM. The same reasons can make it really hard to tune the low rpm and midrange also, but since Sharif tuned it im sure he had very good base maps he has made to start from that were right on anyway - and of course the FCON has closed loop self learning.
No love for the fuel system? Whats are you running?
Yeah Charles, tuning the auto trans is a little tricky. Keep in mind, I got planning of steady state and sweep passes in for the tuning, so thats all good. But getting a 2500-6500rpm run for a pretty dyno chart just wasnt going to happen....LOL.
Here is the best looking one I was able to generate. The dip in the power is a result of the trq converter issue we were having. The RPM's would actually fall backwards slightly....then continue on their upward path.
Originally Posted by roncfpz
Thanks Chris! We spoke about your project......looks nasty. 
Let's get some vids on Jan 6th since we're all having a big meet with the G35 guys as well.
Let's get some vids on Jan 6th since we're all having a big meet with the G35 guys as well. shhhhhhh.Sounds like a plan.
Originally Posted by __jb
Z looks great, Ron!
We'll have to get some new pix on the 6th... Have fun...
We'll have to get some new pix on the 6th... Have fun...
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Originally Posted by acg
I have a 5AT and an APSTT with built motor and I need to upgrade my trans. I was going to go with the VB and TC upgrade but I have not heard anything about a clutch pack upgrade as of yet....is there anything you can tell us to help us 5AT guys out.
Anyway, I just got my A/T back from Speed Force Racing & it's been modded to handle 1000rwhp ( according to Tim @ SFR ). They tighten up the clearances & increase the line pressure as well as do a V/B mod & custom stall & beef the T/C to your specs. They're also waiting on Raybestos to develop/release the beefier clutch packs but I think they add some extra OEM packs to do the same job for now. That power rating should be more than enough for most of us - although I had plans to test the limits!! 
I kicked around the idea of transplanting a 4L80E from TCI into my G & using a paddle shift kit that John ( my former installer ) found but the costs were gonna be about the same between the two choices & I just wanted to go with a more "plug & play" system so I opted for the SFR work. FYI, it cost $4200.
Wish I could give ya some feedback but it looks like I found someone to take this frustrating project off my hands.
Hopefully I can get Mike ( the new owner - I hope!! 
) to keep U guys in the loop on how it handles the power & it's everyday drivability. He's gonna switch from the Vortech ( it was never installed anyway - like most things on this piece of s*** project ). & is getting Sharif to hook him up w/a Greddy TT kit w/upgraded turbos. 
He wants to make close to 700 rwhp & I KNOW I built a motor to handle that kind of power so wish him luck! 
Gene
Last edited by Mean Gene; Dec 23, 2006 at 11:01 PM. Reason: Add Comment
Ahhhh ****.. I've been out of town and totally missed this until now.
Nice to finally receive some details Ron. I can't wait to see her, smell her, hear her and feel her. Haha.
We need to catch up again sometime with the rest if the guys. Be safe with her and no picking on random acuras.
Nice to finally receive some details Ron. I can't wait to see her, smell her, hear her and feel her. Haha.
We need to catch up again sometime with the rest if the guys. Be safe with her and no picking on random acuras.
Originally Posted by Mean Gene
ACG - How ya doing, my friend? I haven't spoken with ya since our "Jeremy Operana" nightmare! Anyway, I just got my A/T back from Speed Force Racing & it's been modded to handle 1000rwhp ( according to Tim @ SFR ). They tighten up the clearances & increase the line pressure as well as do a V/B mod & custom stall & beef the T/C to your specs. They're also waiting on Raybestos to develop/release the beefier clutch packs but I think they add some extra OEM packs to do the same job for now. That power rating should be more than enough for most of us - although I had plans to test the limits!!
I kicked around the idea of transplanting a 4L80E from TCI into my G & using a paddle shift kit that John ( my former installer ) found but the costs were gonna be about the same between the two choices & I just wanted to go with a more "plug & play" system so I opted for the SFR work. FYI, it cost $4200.
Wish I could give ya some feedback but it looks like I found someone to take this frustrating project off my hands. Hopefully I can get Mike ( the new owner - I hope!! ) to keep U guys in the loop on how it handles the power & it's everyday drivability. He's gonna switch from the Vortech ( it was never installed anyway - like most things on this piece of s*** project ). & is getting Sharif to hook him up w/a Greddy TT kit w/upgraded turbos. He wants to make close to 700 rwhp & I KNOW I built a motor to handle that kind of power so wish him luck!
Gene
Anyway, I just got my A/T back from Speed Force Racing & it's been modded to handle 1000rwhp ( according to Tim @ SFR ). They tighten up the clearances & increase the line pressure as well as do a V/B mod & custom stall & beef the T/C to your specs. They're also waiting on Raybestos to develop/release the beefier clutch packs but I think they add some extra OEM packs to do the same job for now. That power rating should be more than enough for most of us - although I had plans to test the limits!! I kicked around the idea of transplanting a 4L80E from TCI into my G & using a paddle shift kit that John ( my former installer ) found but the costs were gonna be about the same between the two choices & I just wanted to go with a more "plug & play" system so I opted for the SFR work. FYI, it cost $4200.
Wish I could give ya some feedback but it looks like I found someone to take this frustrating project off my hands.
Hopefully I can get Mike ( the new owner - I hope!! ) to keep U guys in the loop on how it handles the power & it's everyday drivability. He's gonna switch from the Vortech ( it was never installed anyway - like most things on this piece of s*** project ). & is getting Sharif to hook him up w/a Greddy TT kit w/upgraded turbos. He wants to make close to 700 rwhp & I KNOW I built a motor to handle that kind of power so wish him luck! Gene
I am waiting on alto for their new clutch packs to arrive, I just had a friend call them yesterday and stop them from putting in a new set of OEM packs and just wait it out.
Congrats Ron! You have a bad azz Z there buddy. I can't wait for the upgraded clutch packs to be available. I am sure you will be one of the first
5AT guys to push the limits when the tranny can handle it.
5AT guys to push the limits when the tranny can handle it.
Alex - Thanks man......I was hoping to see us both posting up our numbers around the same time although your's would have been truly impressive and I hope that may still be the case. Good luck!
Mean Gene - Thanks for the info. Like acg I'm gonna try to wait out the new clutch packs since Alto indicated they will be available in early 07 and hopefully Raybestos gets motivated.
Sixto - Thanks bro....looking forward to seeing your transformation as well.
Jorge - Thanks man, I appreciate it. I definitely plan on testing the limits of this thing.
Willie - Not sure as I was not present for the dyno run but my guess is in manumatic mode.
Mean Gene - Thanks for the info. Like acg I'm gonna try to wait out the new clutch packs since Alto indicated they will be available in early 07 and hopefully Raybestos gets motivated.
Sixto - Thanks bro....looking forward to seeing your transformation as well.
Jorge - Thanks man, I appreciate it. I definitely plan on testing the limits of this thing.
Willie - Not sure as I was not present for the dyno run but my guess is in manumatic mode.
Originally Posted by Zilvia
you could always swap in a 6spd....makes the car so much fun..
But regardless you ride is still sick and no got the ***** to prove it
But regardless you ride is still sick and no got the ***** to prove it
Thanks guys! I appreciate it. It's been a long project with 4 major stages along the way and this was the last major one. The car is running well. I've also confirmed that it is the torque converter locking up that is causing the issues at 4500 rpms and the power drop. Time for a rebuilt TC....just hoping clutch packs will be available soon as told to me by Alto.
