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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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Default Finally able to get the TXS Tuner to dispay A:F info on outboard gauge!!!!!

After some searching and alot of questions...(thanks Jermaine @ TXS), I have found a gauge that will allow me to view the Tuner Wideband A:F info on a separate gauge.

The DynoTune Nitrous Wideband A:F gauge:



I got the gauge in a balck face, black bezel, with red LED display.

Here's what to do...........

The Tuner Wideband has an analog output (bottom pin of a 2 pin molex connector on the side of the Tuner.) The output sends out a DC voltage that varies from 0-5V.

That part was easy as this info is listed in the tuner manual.

The hard part was finding an A:F gauge that doesn't have a unique input plug. Both AEM and Innovate have gauges for wideband use, but I think they use special connectors. The dynotunenitrous.com is a simple 3 wire connection (+12V, GND, signal.) The other perfect aprt about the dynotune unit is that it has a perfectly linear output (1V input translates to 10:1 A:F, 2V - 20:1, 3V- 30:1, etc.)

Once you hook up the gauge to the Tuner, you need to go into the tuner's menus and edit the parameters. In the parpameters section, you will see that you have the abilty to change the output of the analog output. Factory settings are 0V - 9:1 AF, 5V - 25:1 AF. They only give you these 2 parameters to change. but fortunately, you can set the these parameters to anywhere from 0AF to 50AF.

Basically, you will set the the 0V value to equal 0 A:F and then set the 5V value to equal 50:1 A:F.

pics coming soon...............
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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Good work!
Sucks that I already have an innovate...
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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Another reason I chose this gauge is due to the construction. The entire case, bezel, etc, is machined aluminum. The body of the gauge is compeltely threaded so that you can mount it in an thickness gauge cluster. Also, these gaues are about .75" - 1" thick....that's slim for those that don't know. I wouldn't have been able to fit an autometer (or similar depth) gauge into my ashtray area and still have the door close. Fianlly, the LEDs are amazing....they never wash out even in direct sunlight!!!







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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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so the AEM gauge never worked out ?

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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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never tried it, and never really liked the look of the AEM with it's "rainbow" around the dial.

I already had the dynotune fuel pressure gauge, so I figured that if I could get dynotune's wibeband gauge to work then it would match the fuel pressure gauge.

that, and I have had other dynotune products (nitrous pressure, nitrous control center, remote bottle opener, etc) and everything has been so well built!
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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Excellent find. Thank you for sharing with us.

I wonder if this gauge on the Dynotune site will work the same. It seems like the same input.


Digital Display
.001 Volt Resolution
Direct Sunlight Viewable
9-14 Volt Operation
Super Low Current Draw
Calibrated to .001 Volts


The competition uses LED’s that flash lots of different colors and it seems like a good idea until you actually use one. During normal cruising the LED’s flash


up and down so much that it constantly annoys you forcing you to move or cover the Gauge with something, unless you are using it during the day, in that case you cant see the LED’s anyway. The DynoTune Gauge Always is easy to read but not distractive. The competition uses LED’s to indicate the air/fuel ratio but the main problem with these types of meters is the calibration. You never really know what each LED is set at? With only ten LED’s, they are only accurate to .1 volts, this is not accurate enough for performance tuning. The DynoTune A/F Gauges solve all this with resolution down to .001 volts! Air/Fuel ratio gauges allow you to see the ratio of air to fuel present in the cylinders. The Oxygen/O2 sensor sends a signal to the computer for fuel calculations and by tapping into that line you can do fuel pressure/boost/nitrous tuning for maximum power.
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Gringo,

This is the dynotune gauge you'd want if you need a square gauge:



whatever gauge you want, you need the "wideband gauge for Innovate controller"
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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QuadCam, noted, thanks again.
Found this also, as it works with the Innovate LM-1 or LC-1 analog output, I would assume that it work as well, display is 8 - 18.


Cost is $59 on this site: http://tunertools.com/proddetail.asp...2D3731&cat=137

I was unable to find out how thick it is (depth).

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Originally Posted by QuadCam

The hard part was finding an A:F gauge that doesn't have a unique input plug. Both AEM and Innovate have gauges for wideband use, but I think they use special connectors. The dynotunenitrous.com is a simple 3 wire connection (+12V, GND, signal.) The other perfect aprt about the dynotune unit is that it has a perfectly linear output (1V input translates to 10:1 A:F, 2V - 20:1, 3V- 30:1, etc.)

Once you hook up the gauge to the Tuner, you need to go into the tuner's menus and edit the parameters. In the parpameters section, you will see that you have the abilty to change the output of the analog output. Factory settings are 0V - 9:1 AF, 5V - 25:1 AF. They only give you these 2 parameters to change. but fortunately, you can set the these parameters to anywhere from 0AF to 50AF.

Basically, you will set the the 0V value to equal 0 A:F and then set the 5V value to equal 50:1 A:F.

pics coming soon...............

ok, did this, the gauge displays: 1.546 when the tuner pro displays 15.2-15.3

What did you do to get the gauge to actually present 15.3????

ThANKS
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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I responded to your PMs.
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
I responded to your PMs.
i appreciate your help! Still can't get the decimal point (any other ideas-) to be in the correct spot..it is a great gauge- good work man!

-TODD
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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I'd call the guys at DynoTune...it sounds like something is off in the gauge.

BTW, did you try hooking up the signal wire to 12V? what did the display read? 120.x or 12.xx? it should read 120.x if things are correct.....also, check the output on the Tuner to see what the voltage is...it should be between 0 and 5V..finally, did you connect it to the lower pin on the output of the Tuner (I think it was the lower pin of the 2 pin connector, IIRC.)
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
I'd call the guys at DynoTune...it sounds like something is off in the gauge.

BTW, did you try hooking up the signal wire to 12V? what did the display read? 120.x or 12.xx? it should read 120.x if things are correct.....also, check the output on the Tuner to see what the voltage is...it should be between 0 and 5V..finally, did you connect it to the lower pin on the output of the Tuner (I think it was the lower pin of the 2 pin connector, IIRC.)
yep, got the lower pin, yep, settings are correct...
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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what does the gauge read with +12V hooked up to the input wire? that ought to tell you something. it should read 120.x up to 147.x (depending on your battery voltage.
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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This is great info!!! Thanks!
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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your welcome. I know several had wondered about this awhile back. I love having my gauge visible now!!! I have my Tuner wideband tucked up under the dash where it is impossible to see...now, I can see what is going on without having to open up the laptop.

Also, I like how the UTEC's analog output is slower to react than what is going on in the UTEC. The UTEC is sample at mad rates, but it that makes it very hard to view on a gauge if it is constantly flipping around. The analog output updates the A:F info just right, not too fast, not too slow!
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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This was my concern when I bought the wideband, no real place to display it. Glad you have figured it out.
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