you may have a happy dyno, bit the slip from the track won't lie.

get a race between another single turbo and this set up

 

I guess I can't see this kit blowing traditional style kits out of the water like it is being hyped up to do based on those numbers at that psi. While I can definitly see some benefits to this design (ecnomy, turbo size v. space avalible) I just cannot see this design giving the resaults that are being claimed unless the dyno is exaggerated otherwise there would be more race teams that utilize this design.

 

i don't think it will be a dissapointment if it falls short of other S/Ts in power. The ease of install / removal and lower cost would be a big draw....if nothing else it will compete for the S/C groups attention.

 

Wish I had the money to be the test car for MRC. Im near by. From the other dynos, Im going to guess the power will be at around 385whp-415whp and have full boost earlier than 3500RPM. Hopefully this turns out to be a good alternative thats safer than others for cheaper. Cheap + safe = clear winner.

After reading the stuff on the STS website, looks like this may be a good alternative to the ST kits. I'd definately pick a remote mount over a under the hood ST but thats just me. Only time will tell.

 

after listening to that corvette spool up, i dont think lag should b problem of any sort. hehe. better put this up 4 production soon. if its promising, ill pick it up.

 

I never thought lag would be a problem. I was worried about the power output. You would sacraficing power for lag. Is this kit a twin charge kit or a single turbo?

 

Why can't people understand corvette doesn't have a VQ...but an ls1, thus spooling the turbo muuuuch faster?

 

s0rry but Cheap and Safe are to words that dont get along in the VQ FI world.

in other news, i have figured why every one really doubts this kits and thats because every body thinks that turbo kits have to give you insane amounts of power like all the Twin Turbo kits. Have ever thought that maybe they where shooting for a kit more suitable for the everyday guy and not the "IM a crazy muth fuka and i need to hit 800hp guy".

I guess our community doenst take to well to diversity.........

 

I think that the whole reason behind the bickering is because while this kit has it's purpose and the community knows that, a person seems to feel that it will outdue some of the big dog twin turbos and there is a quote in this thread where they say that is is better. Things like that bring up contraversy just like the fuel return debate about JWT kits.

I think that the OP has defenitly hurt STS more then benefitted them because there are a number of skeptical people.

Plus just because the corvette did not have lag has nothing to do with the z. They are different engines.

There is one thing that I do wish STS would have done and that is to run dual all the way back to the turbo and merge right at the flange. Most people know that this will increase response based on the fact that it allows the turbine to see individual pulses instead of a smoothed out pulse (from pulses from each bank colliding). Not to mention that it would have made some power just from exhaust restriction reduction. Plus, with properly designed diameter you could increase the velocity of the exhaust pulses over a single pipe.

 

I agree that more FI kits are just another+ for the Z comunity but ....i dont agree on this...

 

correct, they are not reinventing the wheel with this design....
I too like to see independant results, cuase its no suprise to see inflated results out there.

 

 

If you go back and read my posts, I dont want to see this kit fail, I like diversity, I like that the Z community has more options now than 2 years ago. I do doubt the 400whp (on what dyno btw?) @ only 6psi, I do doubt the 3000rpm full spool on the "big" turbo option-seeing as how my TN kit didnt hit full boost till about 3800rpm's (I know others claim less). Regardless of all this, I think Subzero got a little ahead of himself, he had the rope and hung himself with it making comments regarding trap speeds, no biggie. I still look forward to results and actually, I look forward to MRC getting their hands on a car, tuning it, and putting it through its paces on a drag strip. And whoever made the comment about people being worried this was gonna knock off some "big dog" TT kits LMAO @ that comment, and I mean no offense to STS when I say that.

 

turbo turbines are sized to engine. Soooo...can you really say how the turbo will spool?

I certainly can't.

This turbo on a 18,000 hp slow speed diesel has an appropriately sized turbine.

 

Not true. These STS kit turbochargers have typically been undersized in the past to avoid excess lag. I seem to remember something about a 16g on a 6.0L LS2?

 

FWIW, when I was in my brief "trading up to a GTO" mood, I noticed that there was a number of people ditching their STS setups in favor of this:
https://www.ohioforcedinduction.com/04_06_GTO.html

 

they were using very good qulity parts too Oleg...i saw they used Tial WG and BOV

 

If I did end up with a GTO, I'd probably use that one..
Maybe one of Ohio locals could get him to build one for us...

 

The pint of my cheap + safe was that this kind of setup is VERY rare! Very few things are cheap and safe, so if they can do it, good for them and for the Z community.

 

They are going to have to run a smaller turbo because of the head loss in the exhaust piping between the motor and the turbo (pressure loss over the length of piping). They might be able to remedy this by reducing the size of the exhaust piping between the motor and the turbo. That would increase the pressure differential across the turbo, causing it to spool faster. Unfortunately, it will hurt performance off boost, and because of reduced flow @ the same exhaust pressure, it could limit turbo sizing. (which would probably not be a factor unless they're planning to run a massive unit.)