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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Hey all,

I posted this thread over on the other board to get people's opinions on a mod I recently thought of in the wake of my car getting broken into by the cops which resulted in me getting a ticket and finally me having to take my turbo system off the car.

The thread was going fine and there were people that supported this idea and there were some who didn't who then started to berrate me. Even though there was no name calling and a really good debate was going on, a certain idiot (Beer Googles) closed the thread. So I wanted to ask this much larger board on their opinions of this mod:

Hood latch cable relocation.

Turns out that some of my cousins friends have this done to their cars which are Honda's and Acuras. A cop has pulled over one of them before and told him to pop his hood. He told the cop that something had broken on the latch and it wouldn't open and even invited the cop to try the latch himself to no avail. The cop couldn't really do anything and let the kid go.

I've doen quite a bit of research into this as well as alternatives for being in Cali with FI. Alot of people on the other board were telling me to 'sack-up' and quit playing games and if I do go turbo again just do it. This is a very short-sighted, ready-made and pathetic responce. The way I look at it is that if you are gonna go in FI, you are gonna do everything possible to try and stay under the radar or avoid getting that ticket For those of you that don't know, this whole predicament ended-up costing me in the end $1,700!!! So in other words, I did 'sack-up' and took responsibility and I think I handled the whole event well and now my car is back in good with the state. However, I am addicted to boost as I am sure many of you can understand and the fact that there are so many boosted (illegally) cars in CA is a testament that it is an acceptable risk which I plan on taking again.

Basically, as far as the modification would go, the cable would simply be rerouted to an undisclosed location in the car while a dummy cable will be ran to the latch inside the cabin. My supporting arguments is that a cop can't give you a ticket for something he just 'assumes' is there. Coupling this with a stealthy-looking exhaust such as TurboXS's, a billet grille to cover the front mount and reusing my Zeitronix gauges in the cubbyhole, my car will look like stock and from the get-go will have less of a chance of getting pulled over in the first place.

Other people on the other board were giving me other ideas such as Love2RidePow who I still think of as a good guy but was a total d0uchebag in the thread. He had openly told people in Cali that he was willing to let others use his other residence in Nevada to register other vehicles so that these Z's would now have Nevada plates and registrations. After doing some research, California actually has a program called C.H.E.A.T.E.R.S. which targets these people since Cali losses hundreds upon thousands of dollars on people that think Cali registration is too high or can't or won't abide by CARB requirements (that's me, right there!) All someone has to do is report a car with a out of state license plate and CHP will investigate.

The people who were against my modification idea felt I was doing too much and I in-turn felt that driving all the way to another state, doing the license test, registering the vehicle and insuring it was too much and it is. All I wanna do is relocate a cable but the morons couldn't get that through their thick skull.

Sorry for the long thread but I think you can see why this topic may have some value to it not only from trying to evade prosecution but understanding certian legal issues as well which could lead to greater repercussions such as a huge fiune and jail time.

So what do you think of the cable relocation scheme? Do you think it is worthwhile? Any other ideas?

Mark
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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um, dont need to pop the hood to see the intercooler and that is all they need to see in Cali. unless of course the car comes with one from the factory which the Z doesn't and the cops know that.
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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i think you know its sounds good. YOu gotta do what you gotta cause of where you live... its better than changing your plates and everything... just do it , what you got to lose.
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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Also you don't have to let the cops look under your hood. You could just say where is the search warrant. They if they want to take the time to get one then they could look but if they're lazy and don't wanna get one then you're off the hook. You don't have to show them.
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Also you don't have to let the cops look under your hood. You could just say where is the search warrant. They if they want to take the time to get one then they could look but if they're lazy and don't wanna get one then you're off the hook. You don't have to show them.
your right, they can just impound the car and then tear it apart at the impound lot. In california once they start tearing it apart EVERYTHING that is not CARB legal is a seperate fine. In order to get the car out of impound then you have to pay each fine and the impound charges, which = most people will never be able to afford to pay it all and not get their car back.

if you are pulled over, they do not have to ticket you. they can arrest you for your infraction.

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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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wow gj california is teh sucks
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Just out of curiosity, what's the point is even posting this here?

If you think you can get away with it, then do it. Keep your mouth shut about it and you won't get in trouble.

Otherwise, you're asking for trouble...

My guess is that this thread gets closed because of the illegitimacy of the topic.
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCajunStyle
illegitimacy
I was gonna own you for your verbage but apparently your usage is quite correct.. kudos!

illegitimacy -
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1. the status of being born to parents who were not married [syn: bastardy]
2. unlawfulness by virtue of not being authorized by or in accordance with law [ant: legitimacy]
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Originally Posted by TheProfessional
I was gonna own you for your verbage but apparently your usage is quite correct.. kudos!

illegitimacy -
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2. unlawfulness by virtue of not being authorized by or in accordance with law [ant: legitimacy]
Do I get a cookie!?
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I got pulled over last night actually...

All you have to do is drive like a sane human being and act like you have nothing to hide. If you show respect to the officer who pulls you over you generally won't get a ticket.
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and that my friends is why you stay out of the state of everything will cause cancer california.
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Originally Posted by Quijano187
i think you know its sounds good. YOu gotta do what you gotta cause of where you live... its better than changing your plates and everything... just do it , what you got to lose.

Thanks for your support.
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I think the idea of the fake latch is pretty sound.

Do what I do with the FMIC and have it painted black. If you look at the front of the car, you don't even know it's there. Even if you put your head up to the bumper, a cop may not even think about it twice.
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Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
your right, they can just impound the car and then tear it apart at the impound lot. In california once they start tearing it apart EVERYTHING that is not CARB legal is a seperate fine. In order to get the car out of impound then you have to pay each fine and the impound charges, which = most people will never be able to afford to pay it all and not get their car back.

if you are pulled over, they do not have to ticket you. they can arrest you for your infraction.

Where did you get this from that every single piece of equipment is a seperate fine? The simple fact of the matter is that the car is illegal and you get one CVC code, 27156 I think it is which equates to one fine. They don't give you a fee for the turbo housing and then another fee for an exhaust and another one for a wastegate.

In addition, I don't drive like an a$$ and I have a perfect driving records- doubtful (knock on wood) that they will get em for an infraction.

In order for them to tow me away which you mentioned in another post, they need to cite specific reasons for doing so and municipal police departments can't do that. The only agency I know of that can do that without having to even look inside your car is the CHP since they are in charge of traffic safety both private and commercial. It is routine for them to pull over big rigs to check their brakes, hydraulics, emissions, decibel levels etc. Technically, if I can't or won't comply, they can tow my car because it wasn't able to be inspected.

Other than that, the police need to cite a reason to tow your car or search it. The only thing that can defeat that is what someone stated earlier- make me sit on the side of the road for one or more hours waiting for a judge to issue a search warrant over the air.

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Originally Posted by THE TECH
I think the idea of the fake latch is pretty sound.

Do what I do with the FMIC and have it painted black. If you look at the front of the car, you don't even know it's there. Even if you put your head up to the bumper, a cop may not even think about it twice.

Thanks Tech,

Yeah, I think I will do that. Do you have a particular paint you recommend that will not inhibit heat diffusion orfurther cooling of the air?

Where are you in SoCal?- I'm close to L.A.
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Originally Posted by D_Z
Also you don't have to let the cops look under your hood. You could just say where is the search warrant. They if they want to take the time to get one then they could look but if they're lazy and don't wanna get one then you're off the hook. You don't have to show them.
I love it when sea-lawyers like you open your mouths... Tends to get others in trouble when they follow the given advice.
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And cover your Intercooler with a grill.

Thank god I don't live in California.
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I'm in Whittier.

Paint is paint. If you do it yourself, you can get the temp resistant stuff or just regular spray. Another option is to have a shop do it. Either way, IMHO the paint is not going to cause any ill effects.
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
Where did you get this from that every single piece of equipment is a seperate fine? The simple fact of the matter is that the car is illegal and you get one CVC code, 27156 I think it is which equates to one fine. They don't give you a fee for the turbo housing and then another fee for an exhaust and another one for a wastegate.

In addition, I don't drive like an a$$ and I have a perfect driving records- doubtful (knock on wood) that they will get em for an infraction.

In order for them to tow me away which you mentioned in another post, they need to cite specific reasons for doing so and municipal police departments can't do that. The only agency I know of that can do that without having to even look inside your car is the CHP since they are in charge of traffic safety both private and commercial. It is routine for them to pull over big rigs to check their brakes, hydraulics, emissions, decibel levels etc. Technically, if I can't or won't comply, they can tow my car because it wasn't able to be inspected.

Other than that, the police need to cite a reason to tow your car or search it. The only thing that can defeat that is what someone stated earlier- make me sit on the side of the road for one or more hours waiting for a judge to issue a search warrant over the air.
um, ok tell that to my co-worker that had his car impounded and was arrested for speeding because he gave the "get a warrant" attitude. believe what you want. non CARB Cams = fine, turbos = fine, intake = fine.
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thats the reason why i went with vortech... CA =
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