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Old 03-06-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Wideband O2 sensor depth affecting reading???

Is it possible that you could get extra rich reading from a wideband O2 if the sensor is not deep enough in the pipe........

Ever since I redid my setup, my wideband is reading about 1.0 rich all the time. I had to have some exhaust work done, and they put a new bung in the exhaust......well, I took a look at it today and it seems to be a thicker (deeper) bung than I used to have. This bung would seem to not allow the wideband O2 to go as deep into the exhaust tubing. I am talking about probably only 1/4" less depth into the pipe. what do you guys think?
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So your saying the o2 sensor isnt as far IN the pipe as it was before? If thats the case I would think it would read leaner..

Did he tune you that rich?
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No, we didn't use my wibeband ont he dyno because I already knew it wasn't reading right.

I am getting values in the mids 13s just at idle.

BTW, I already performed a free-air recal, too...It didn't help.
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At least for narrowbands the depth of the sensor has no effect on the reading. Worst case scenario it would delay the response time of the O2 sensor to a exhaust mixture change so a O2 at the manifold with pleny of exposure to the exhaust stream might show a reading a few milliseconds sooner then one mounted where your sensor is but the end result (the reading) should be no different unless there is an exhaust leak around the wideband..
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i just don't know why all of a sudden it is off so much.
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
i just don't know why all of a sudden it is off so much.
Well I guess it depends on what you mean by re-did your setup. Do you mean just the downpipe,exhaust,wideband setup or the entire turbo setup?
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He went from Turbonetics to Greddy.. Am not sure what exhaust system he had with the turbonetics..
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
Is it possible that you could get extra rich reading from a wideband O2 if the sensor is not deep enough in the pipe........

Ever since I redid my setup, my wideband is reading about 1.0 rich all the time. I had to have some exhaust work done, and they put a new bung in the exhaust......well, I took a look at it today and it seems to be a thicker (deeper) bung than I used to have. This bung would seem to not allow the wideband O2 to go as deep into the exhaust tubing. I am talking about probably only 1/4" less depth into the pipe. what do you guys think?
Hey

Trust me, it can't possibly make a difference...the diameter of the whole INSIDE the sensor core that lets in the gas to be analyzed is the size of a human hair. Hence, ther is no way that an increased/decreased flow of air due to the depth in the pipe can make a difference.

No worries there bro.
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I spoke with TXs today, and they said the depth could affect the output.

I figure I'd rather buy a bung and try that ; if that doesn't work, I'll buy a new sensor.
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
I spoke with TXs today, and they said the depth could affect the output.

I figure I'd rather buy a bung and try that ; if that doesn't work, I'll buy a new sensor.
TX is wrong, sorry to say.
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Originally Posted by GurgenPB
TX is wrong, sorry to say.

no worries.
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