Engine is Toast !!!! Feel my Pain!!
06-06-2007, 11:48 AM
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After reading over 9 pages of this thread, here is simply my perspective:
1. I recommend that anyone that choices to go FI do a lot of research into the products you wish to buy & even more time selecting the shop (one shop) to do the work. There is a lot more to price when selecting a product & installer/tuner.
2. Assuming you have selected a shop on their proven record of doing good work, spoken to several people (customers) that are happy with that shop’s work, & know they back their work, you have a much better chance of not having a problem with your car. If you do have a problem, chances are they will be willing to help you resolve that problem.
3. Once you pick a shop to do your installation, I strongly suggest you use that same shop for further modifications, tuning etc. Picking one shop to do part of the job, then using another shop to do other work causes the pointing finger blame game to occur & rightfully so. To be blunt, why should one shop fix anothers error.
4. If you have a problem with a shop or product, try giving them a reasonable chance at helping you fix the problem. The reality is the aftermarket community is dependant upon us as customers. It is in their long term interests to help us so we use them (& the products they sell) again & hopefully have us recommend them to other customers. When a shop or product is blasted on the internet, it can have long term negative effects & if should not be done without at least giving those involved time to fix the problem. Remember, what comes around, goes around.
5. Think twice before doing something. Going FI has risks. Selecting a product that meets your needs & taking the time in selecting a reputable installer/tuner increases your chances of having a good FI experience.
6. I feel for Jet & his problem. Good luck to you getting things running again!
1. I recommend that anyone that choices to go FI do a lot of research into the products you wish to buy & even more time selecting the shop (one shop) to do the work. There is a lot more to price when selecting a product & installer/tuner.
2. Assuming you have selected a shop on their proven record of doing good work, spoken to several people (customers) that are happy with that shop’s work, & know they back their work, you have a much better chance of not having a problem with your car. If you do have a problem, chances are they will be willing to help you resolve that problem.
3. Once you pick a shop to do your installation, I strongly suggest you use that same shop for further modifications, tuning etc. Picking one shop to do part of the job, then using another shop to do other work causes the pointing finger blame game to occur & rightfully so. To be blunt, why should one shop fix anothers error.
4. If you have a problem with a shop or product, try giving them a reasonable chance at helping you fix the problem. The reality is the aftermarket community is dependant upon us as customers. It is in their long term interests to help us so we use them (& the products they sell) again & hopefully have us recommend them to other customers. When a shop or product is blasted on the internet, it can have long term negative effects & if should not be done without at least giving those involved time to fix the problem. Remember, what comes around, goes around.
5. Think twice before doing something. Going FI has risks. Selecting a product that meets your needs & taking the time in selecting a reputable installer/tuner increases your chances of having a good FI experience.
6. I feel for Jet & his problem. Good luck to you getting things running again!
Last edited by zland; 06-06-2007 at 11:51 AM.
06-06-2007, 12:07 PM
#187
very imformative post. jets motor will be out and apart/taken care of in a very fast timely matter. we will see what is the cause and get it back to the proper place for rebuilding/machining.
thanks everyone!!
thanks everyone!!
Originally Posted by zland
After reading over 9 pages of this thread, here is simply my perspective:
1. I recommend that anyone that choices to go FI do a lot of research into the products you wish to buy & even more time selecting the shop (one shop) to do the work. There is a lot more to price when selecting a product & installer/tuner.
2. Assuming you have selected a shop on their proven record of doing good work, spoken to several people (customers) that are happy with that shop’s work, & know they back their work, you have a much better chance of not having a problem with your car. If you do have a problem, chances are they will be willing to help you resolve that problem.
3. Once you pick a shop to do your installation, I strongly suggest you use that same shop for further modifications, tuning etc. Picking one shop to do part of the job, then using another shop to do other work causes the pointing finger blame game to occur & rightfully so. To be blunt, why should one shop fix anothers error.
4. If you have a problem with a shop or product, try giving them a reasonable chance at helping you fix the problem. The reality is the aftermarket community is dependant upon us as customers. It is in their long term interests to help us so we use them (& the products they sell) again & hopefully have us recommend them to other customers. When a shop or product is blasted on the internet, it can have long term negative effects & if should not be done without at least giving those involved time to fix the problem. Remember, what comes around, goes around.
5. Think twice before doing something. Going FI has risks. Selecting a product that meets your needs & taking the time in selecting a reputable installer/tuner increases your chances of having a good FI experience.
6. I feel for Jet & his problem. Good luck to you getting things running again!
1. I recommend that anyone that choices to go FI do a lot of research into the products you wish to buy & even more time selecting the shop (one shop) to do the work. There is a lot more to price when selecting a product & installer/tuner.
2. Assuming you have selected a shop on their proven record of doing good work, spoken to several people (customers) that are happy with that shop’s work, & know they back their work, you have a much better chance of not having a problem with your car. If you do have a problem, chances are they will be willing to help you resolve that problem.
3. Once you pick a shop to do your installation, I strongly suggest you use that same shop for further modifications, tuning etc. Picking one shop to do part of the job, then using another shop to do other work causes the pointing finger blame game to occur & rightfully so. To be blunt, why should one shop fix anothers error.
4. If you have a problem with a shop or product, try giving them a reasonable chance at helping you fix the problem. The reality is the aftermarket community is dependant upon us as customers. It is in their long term interests to help us so we use them (& the products they sell) again & hopefully have us recommend them to other customers. When a shop or product is blasted on the internet, it can have long term negative effects & if should not be done without at least giving those involved time to fix the problem. Remember, what comes around, goes around.
5. Think twice before doing something. Going FI has risks. Selecting a product that meets your needs & taking the time in selecting a reputable installer/tuner increases your chances of having a good FI experience.
6. I feel for Jet & his problem. Good luck to you getting things running again!
06-06-2007, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 350Z_LEE
Pretty unprofessional of you to make an "attempt" to degrade someone who runs a nice operation, and has put out several quality VQ's. Lots of chocolate milk drinkers on this forum too. 
Jeremy did apologize, and it seemed pretty genuine...
06-06-2007, 12:44 PM
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Yes... I sold the turbo with the guarantee that I will rebuild the turbo if there is anything wrong with it. I disclosed everything up front. Check my iTrader bitshes!
My oil return wasn't kinked. It was flowing back to the pan. So let's not dwell on that anymore. I think the situatio nwith these turbo's is evident now given the number of people that have come foward with the same iussue. If it is found that Turbnetics was not at fault I will gladly post up a public appology.
JET
My oil return wasn't kinked. It was flowing back to the pan. So let's not dwell on that anymore. I think the situatio nwith these turbo's is evident now given the number of people that have come foward with the same iussue. If it is found that Turbnetics was not at fault I will gladly post up a public appology.
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06-06-2007, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Yes... I sold the turbo with the guarantee that I will rebuild the turbo if there is anything wrong with it. I disclosed everything up front. Check my iTrader bitshes!
My oil return wasn't kinked. It was flowing back to the pan. So let's not dwell o nthat anymore. I think the situatio nwith these turbo's is evident now given the number of people that have come foward wit hthe same iussue. If it is found that Turbnetics was not at fault I will gladly post up a public appology.
JET
My oil return wasn't kinked. It was flowing back to the pan. So let's not dwell o nthat anymore. I think the situatio nwith these turbo's is evident now given the number of people that have come foward wit hthe same iussue. If it is found that Turbnetics was not at fault I will gladly post up a public appology.
JET
06-06-2007, 12:58 PM
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With the line bent around the up-pipe there is no way that line could kink. There was no way for it to fold. When it was off the car it could easilly be folded where it had burned through. In my opinion if the line were kinked and the oil was building enough pressure to blow through the oil seals it would have exited the hole in the oil line as well as that would have been the path of least resistance rather than the oil seals.
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06-06-2007, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
With the line bent around the up-pipe there is no way that line could kink. There was no way for it to fold. When it was off the car it could easilly be folded where it had burned through. In my opinion if the line were kinked and the oil was building enough pressure to blow through the oil seals it would have exited the hole in the oil line as well as that would have been the path of least resistance rather than the oil seals.
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06-06-2007, 01:28 PM
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JET- Hope everything works out for ya and with all the reputable shops involved, I dont see why it wouldn't. There is a ton of useful information in this thread for a Noob like myself to learn about the different problems than can arise with FI. I'm contemplating the GReddy Twins myself and I just flew in from Atlanta, wish I had time to stop over at Forged.
06-06-2007, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
i just want to apologize to sharif, sorry for saying anything to discredit you. i am a good honest person and get caught up in this drama sometimes...
Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
we are pretty much the hardcore racing metal militia of the Z community, its got to be the fastest, loudest, lowest thing around, we let our arrogance overtake our professionalism sometimes, nothing good comes from name calling and so forth...
Keep doing what got you here and the rest will take care of itself.Now, get a bigger shop for all these cars
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06-06-2007, 02:56 PM
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06-06-2007, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
That's what happens when the oil drain is kinked and it has nowhere to go, it will come out the seals. Amazing after all this we're back to step one trying to explain the obvious...if this is where the oil went (backed up in the turbo and pushed through the seals)..you would either fill the intake with so much oil the car would run like complete crap..or the car would be smoking like my dually diesel at WOT pulling a trailer in 3rd gear
....in most cases when oil backs up in a turbo, the car will smoke tons and tons..and JET, no smoke?
06-06-2007, 03:02 PM
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exactly, you know the aps kits were having tons of problems with oil flooding the turbos, hell, several people were driving them around with sumps that werent running, and the turbos had loads of oil leaking from every crack, dripping from the exhaust tips, filling the intercooler and charge pipes, and smoking like a factory, and the seals still never went bad.
i even filled mine with gasoline a few months ago, i had a wire in my ecu harness come loose that was the ignition for cylinder 4, the car was running like crap and gas was pouring out of where the turbo manifold meets the head, and pouring all over the ground, and leaking out of the turbo. found out the plug wasnt firing and the cylinder was filling with unburnt fuel, that makes you feel nice and warm inside.
hope you get it all fixed Jet, once and for all.
i even filled mine with gasoline a few months ago, i had a wire in my ecu harness come loose that was the ignition for cylinder 4, the car was running like crap and gas was pouring out of where the turbo manifold meets the head, and pouring all over the ground, and leaking out of the turbo. found out the plug wasnt firing and the cylinder was filling with unburnt fuel, that makes you feel nice and warm inside.
hope you get it all fixed Jet, once and for all.
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