How big of WG should I go with.
06-09-2007, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
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i think taurant is jsut wanting 44mm cuase he likes how it sounds too
I think he knows its a lot for his setup
i think taurant is jsut wanting 44mm cuase he likes how it sounds too
I think he knows its a lot for his setup
06-09-2007, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by IntenseFab
Thats alot of extra work for no real point, the 38mm is good for 600-650whp no probs. Hell i've personally seen a 35mm wastegate go to 560whp / 600 tq on an 8 psi spring, controlled by a turbonetics manual bc, holding set psi flawlessly
Go with the 38mm it'll take you 5 minutes to fab up a dump tube, and you dont have to modify your up pipe
Go with the 38mm it'll take you 5 minutes to fab up a dump tube, and you dont have to modify your up pipe
BTW will the spring from the TN wastegate work in the Tial? I know I know, it's a shot in the dark...
06-10-2007, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by diwun67
That's what I was hoping, I have a Tial 38mm sitting here brand new, just waiting for my car to get back from the bodyshop. Ever since I had my clutch/flywheel installed the car overboosts in 1st and 2nd, jittery in 3rd and solid from 4th and up. I think the TN wastegate is kinda slow on reacting to a quicker revving engine, or maybe there's something wrong with mine
BTW will the spring from the TN wastegate work in the Tial? I know I know, it's a shot in the dark...
BTW will the spring from the TN wastegate work in the Tial? I know I know, it's a shot in the dark...
Basically overboosting in lower gears makes no sense to me.
06-10-2007, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Revs have nothing to do with "overboost". I believe something is wrong on your setup because "overboosting" in 1st and 2nd gear is the exact opposite of what normally happens with an issue like this. Higher load causes the boost creep to increase, meaning that normally the higher gears should net you higher boost.
Basically overboosting in lower gears makes no sense to me.
Basically overboosting in lower gears makes no sense to me.
06-10-2007, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Revs have nothing to do with "overboost". I believe something is wrong on your setup because "overboosting" in 1st and 2nd gear is the exact opposite of what normally happens with an issue like this. Higher load causes the boost creep to increase, meaning that normally the higher gears should net you higher boost.
Basically overboosting in lower gears makes no sense to me.
Basically overboosting in lower gears makes no sense to me.
4th and 5th are the most likely to overboost, since thats where you usually are when racing and with the most load on the wg. However I do agree that with a lighter flywheel that the turbo will see a higher volume of air faster and possibly overwhelm the WG but it would also be seen at the higher gears as well.
06-10-2007, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Turbosmart quality is as good as anything out there. Here's a pic....
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Why are cleared for the ILS 9R approach?
06-10-2007, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MI 35th
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4th and 5th are the most likely to overboost, since thats where you usually are when racing and with the most load on the wg. However I do agree that with a lighter flywheel that the turbo will see a higher volume of air faster and possibly overwhelm the WG but it would also be seen at the higher gears as well.
4th and 5th are the most likely to overboost, since thats where you usually are when racing and with the most load on the wg. However I do agree that with a lighter flywheel that the turbo will see a higher volume of air faster and possibly overwhelm the WG but it would also be seen at the higher gears as well.
06-10-2007, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
$350 for everything.
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Thats actually not to bad. PM me Jet. I could do 325 Shipped today!
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06-10-2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by diwun67
Well the effects of a lightened flywheel are felt mostly in lower gears...
06-10-2007, 01:53 PM
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Dump tube and WG.
Thats actually not to bad. PM me Jet. I could do 325 Shipped today!
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Thats actually not to bad. PM me Jet. I could do 325 Shipped today!
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Paypal to: threelittlefish@bellsouth.net
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06-10-2007, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Dump tube and wastegate $325 shipped is fine. The pipe is Jet-Hot coated. I won't be able to ship it out til Wednesday.
Paypal to threelittlefish@bellsouth.net
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How is this attached to the piping, is it off the flange or welded straight to the piping if its welded, was it cut off or is that piece inclusive. I know this is way OT, but I am feeling lazy and havent searched for your for sale thread.
What PSI Spring is in there?
How long has this been used?
I will be sending payment ASAP. Wednesday is fine. I still need a return fuel setup and 550cc injectors. Not to mention UEGO & Gauges...
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06-10-2007, 02:29 PM
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Boost was rock solid @ 14.5 psi. It never went over that and it never crept. The manual boost controller has something to do with that as well.
This is welded straight to the pipe but at an angle. The whole reverse y-pipe is included. You just have take the old y-pipe out and put this on in it's place. There are several spring that come with the WG. I forget what's in there. They are color coded and you just need to look at the color odf the spring. There are 2 in there now. A 7psi inner and an outer. Maybe the outer is 5. Take it apart and check it out. There are a few more I have as well I will send you. I think there is about 12,000 mi on it.
JET
This is welded straight to the pipe but at an angle. The whole reverse y-pipe is included. You just have take the old y-pipe out and put this on in it's place. There are several spring that come with the WG. I forget what's in there. They are color coded and you just need to look at the color odf the spring. There are 2 in there now. A 7psi inner and an outer. Maybe the outer is 5. Take it apart and check it out. There are a few more I have as well I will send you. I think there is about 12,000 mi on it.
JET
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06-10-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MI 35th
True becuase of gearing, but its only getting to the peak volume quicker, you should still be overboosting at higher gears if you are at low.
06-11-2007, 06:11 AM
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Just purchased Jets Wastegate Setup!
That should do for now!
The list grows shorter of modifications needed to finish my turbonetics setup.
That should do for now!
The list grows shorter of modifications needed to finish my turbonetics setup.
06-11-2007, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by diwun67
Yeah it makes no sense, the only thing I can come up with is that the WG is reacting too slow in lower gears. Like I said earlier when I get the car back I'm replacing the TN wastegate with the 38mm Tial and I'll post my results.
06-11-2007, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
That makes no sense to me. How heavy is your flywheel, really? With most on the market, your revs barely will increase. The tilton 9lb flywheel is really the only exception I've seen.
Also the 350Evo flywheel wieghs the same as the tilton so that could be another opt.