I just though of something, when I went through the firewall, i cut a hole into the grommet that leads between the firewall and under the dash. Now this is just an assumption but there is a possiblility that I may have scored a wire or nicked one. If that is the case then I am really F'd. I dont know how to even check that problem.

 

You need to pull the plastic piece that covers the grommet and wiring harness.. Make sure you have complete access to it. You are going to have to get the grommet out of its 'hole' and see if you punctured any wires etc.. If you did, you will have to splice them back together.. Really not that difficult.. Electrical tape and maybe some small wire connectors..

 

add some solder to that list....better safe than sorry.

 

Just checked, dissassembled the area, pulled out the grommet and I didnt notice any marring of any of the wires, thats not the problem. I have to go to work now so I guess I will have to check tonight and look around the ecm and see if there is anything. I deffinently shorted something. I replaced the fuses and they both work good. So there isnt a short anymore but the problem stil exists.

Let me see ohh i forgot I do have aim go ahead and send it if you can. THanks

I am never on there so I dont know how it works.

 

does anyone know where the fuse is that runs the guage pod, I need a direct place to look, also if that fuse was blown would there still be power running to the pod or are there different fuses that run the guages and not the lighting?

 

I just got your PM on this. This doesn't appear to be related to exactly what type of kit you're running (turbonetics), but appears to be an issue with the way or something you did when wiring in your gauges. Unfortunately I'm about as useful as a one-armed chimpanzee when it comes to working with anything electrical beyond basic issues. There are people in this forum that are far more versed in this kind of issue (ahemm... KPierson, Audiblemayhem etc).

I don't think it sounds like anything directly related to the UTEC or the ECU. You might try checking some of the fuses and relays up under the hood to see if there's anything shorted or blown. I know that there are some up there that if pulled will kill things like the speedo, brake lights, etc.

Maybe MIA or the people mentioned before can assist. Also try seeing if KPierson has time to help. He is basically the electrical guru for our cars.

I'd say another safe bet is to take it in and let Jeremy have a go at it. I believe he is originally an electrician by trade so he could definitely get the problem fixed...

 

I wasnt really saying it was a Turbo problem as I havent seen or installed a T'Netics kit and I wasnt sure what he could of messed up electrically..

He doesnt have any gauges, he is talking about his speedometer, rpm HUD right in front..

 

exactly, that's it the HUD, the oil pressure guage and that pod work fine.

Is there a fuse that runs the sensors for that or the HUD itself. it looks like I might have to talk to jeremy.

 

Uh... so what did you install? The UTEC or the boost/wideband o2 gauges? Why did you tap into the cigarette lighter circuit?

I understand what's not working, perhaps I just misunderstood what you did to change the setup.

Note - you don't need to tap into anything electrically to install the turbo kit. The only reason you would is for aftermarket gauges, an EBC, turbo timer, EMS, etc....

 

Best advice I have heard from you all day..

 

I would recheck the fuse's in the car, this happened to me and I had a blown fuse I replaced it and it still didn't work. Played with the fuse I replaced and it solved it somehow. I think my mirror fuse was the one that went, can't remember exactly. It did happened when I was hardwiring my radar detector and the two wires touched. Best of luck to you!!

 

if it's a bunch of stuff not turning on, then it's a fuse somewhere - you just gotta find it...

EDIT: Just read that the gauge does light up, but they are just not functioning. That sounds like the ECU not working, but you really need to work this up with a service manual. It is VERY good for troubleshooting (has step by steps if something goes wrong).

 

You definitely shorted something out if you blew two fuses. You also need to remember that there are 3 total fuse banks on the car not counting the fused link on the battery terminal itself. There is one bank in the drivers side kick panel, one bank in a small black plastic box in front of the battery, and one fuse bank to the right behind the battery under a tall black plastic cover that doesn't look like a fuse panel at all. And of course on top of those 3 you have the fuseable link on the positive battery post as well. You need to check all three fuse banks and the fuseable link last for blown fuses. I would like to also know what exactly you tapped into the cig lighter circuit. If its for the gauges I certainly wouldn't have tapped there but thats just me. Assuming all three banks and the fuseable link are intact you have damaged the ECM or BCM somehow but my first guess is you damaged the ECM based on the all the lights and the fact your center stock gauges are working. Putting your friends ECU in is not going to help you as the NATS module won't let the car run either. If you shorted the wrong wire you could have killed the ECM. I would do this personally.

(1) Check ALL of the fuse banks and fuseable link
(2) Disconnect the UTEC AND ALL wires to the gauges
(3) Scan for any codes the ECU might be throwing
(4) Take it to a shop for diagnosis

If with step 2 done it still doesn't work you have damaged one of the modules in the car and Step 3 should tell you which one. If Step 3 tell you nothing you are in a world of hurt and need to let a shop work on it.

 

I had my fuse blow on the cig lighter/mirror/etc. It was from running V1 and also charging my cell phone on it. I ended up just replacing it with a higher capacity fuse and it worked fine.

 

I think your gauge cluter is controlled by the box behind the A/C controle (which also controlls your A/C. Find someone with a Z in your area swap and see if you shorted yours out or something.
I remember when I was hooking up my speed sensor wire I disconnected the plugs in the back of the box and none of my gagues worked.

but seeing how yours actually lughts up you might have just shorted somthing out. IDK sorry.

 

its a relay for the gauge pod. (located behind the kick panel fuses) but what do i know


basically stephan was going to bring me the car to have the stuff installed but he didnt want to spend the money to do it so he took it on himself. no problem with that here at all, big props for taking it on. BUT i told him that when i tune it , if i have to fix anything , it was going to be 100 hr to fix it


it has nothing to do with the turbo kit, it has to do with shorting out some wires when you tapped into them or added something electrical btw...

 

Craig, do you know they put certain size fuses in there for a reason

 

What's that smell?

 

Yeah, it was one size up and I rarely use it. I think it'll be fine. In any case I have a fire extinguisher under the passenger seat.

 

What does the relay look like or located to in reference to the ''its a relay for the gauge pod. (located behind the kick panel fuses)''?
inside of the pannel?

This concerns me now, best buy installed an alarm in my car and I have no idea what they tapped into?