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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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im gonna drop my car off at the shop for built engine and aps tt kit. i plan on to have about 500 whp/tq at the wheels. i just cant decide on what cluth to go with. the shop sugested exedy twin plated carbon clucth, but at 2,500, i wont go with that (i know i should but that is just too much money for a cluth.)

im thinking about chutchmasters:

http://www.hybridconnection.com/cata...f6c1fd856e5c2f

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the act combo c/f:

clutch:

http://www.hybridconnection.com/cata...f6c1fd856e5c2f

flywheel(WHICH IS BEST BETWEEN THE 2?)

http://www.hybridconnection.com/cata...f6c1fd856e5c2f

http://www.hybridconnection.com/cata...f6c1fd856e5c2f

how will those 2 brands hold the power? and how streetable are they? im leaning towards the act combo because of price. they also say the the act clucth will hold 662 ft/lbs. what do you guys sugest? also how much extra should a shop charge for a clutch and flywheel install? if they are installing a tt kit, im guessing not that much? thanks in advance....
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Hey, I recently posted a thread similar to your's. I'm gonna have a similar setup as you (read my sig). Do a search and read about it. To sum it up, if you skimp out and go with a cheap clutch, you are gonna have to replace it soon or later and you are gonna end up spending the same money as buying more high end clutches like exedy twin carbon or carbonetics/ATS twin carbon.

I'm going with the cabonetics/ATS twin carbon with 1350 pressure plate.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Check the classifieds, I see quite a few low mileage or new in box ATS setups pop up in there.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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CM doesnt recommend that twin disc, except for pure drag racing applications. They claim it is VERY grabby and not suitable for a street car at all. For 500whp, you have lots of options that are all pretty good. ACT, CM Stage 4, RPS...all very good, and opinions will probably vary, as to what is "better".

A carbon twin will last at least twice as long, and they are very very smooth, so that might be something to consider as well. The Carbonetics twins are about $2000 or so....so that's another option, that might be less than a triple or Exedy twin. Let us know if we can help.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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For 500whp, you have lots of options that are all pretty good. ACT, CM Stage 4, RPS...all very good, and opinions will probably vary, as to what is "better".
+1... i have the CM Stage 4 4-puck and it's very smooth... i do nothing but drive on the street and the only complaint i have is it's a bit chattery when hot... i'm over 600whp and over 600tq and it's holding fine... longevity remains to be seen, but no slippage as of yet...
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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thanks for the responses guys..im gonna do a search on the cm stage 4 for some extra info on them.. i just think its crazy to spend over 2 grands on a clutch...
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Z4LIFEBR
thanks for the responses guys..im gonna do a search on the cm stage 4 for some extra info on them.. i just think its crazy to spend over 2 grands on a clutch...

I was hell bent against going with the big buck clutch. After eating up a couple lower priced clutches I saw the light.

2K+ seems like a lot now, but not so much after a couple 600 clutches go bye-bye and you are paying 2-3 install bills on top of buying the 2k+ buck clutch anyways
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 03:12 AM
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+1 to ATS. sure it may cost 2 grand for it... but the clutch lasts, is very responsive and most of all near stock modulation and comfort (well... before it extremely heats up).

i've had 3 clutches prior to boost up tuning to 510 rwhp. the car was making 350 rwhp and i killed a JWT combo, RPS combo with JWT flywheel and a twin tilton street AND ceramic rally setups. needless to say, with all that money spent on clutches, i should have done it right the first time... ATS or any other multidisk carbon setup.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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i've already put lot of money on the car for now...so im gonna give a cheaper clutch a shoot, till at least next year then i'll problably get a better clutch..i think i'll go with cm stage 4 clutch...what flywheel should i get for this clutch?
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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You could try spec clutches they are very good.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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I understand where you are coming from with trying to save money but getting a less expensive clutch now, but in reality you will be spending more because once that clutch is burned up you will have to..
1. Pay the labor to R/R the clutch
2. Buy the correct clutch you should have gotten in the first place.

I know it gets very expensive modifying cars and you can spend more than you thought in a blink of an eye, thats just the way this hobby is.

I would hate for you to spend money on a inadeqite clutch then spend more money to get the right clutch down the road.

We have our GTM Spec Twin disk carbon clutches in stock and ready to ship, they are very street able and will hold the power you will be putting out and LAST.

Of course I am biased to this clutch/flywheel combo but everyone who has purchased it as been very satisfied with it

Good luck and let me know if you need anything!

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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could you give me a pm on price of clutch shipped to 02145? thanks
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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there isn't too much information on clutchs on here..im having a hard time finding information on clutchs....i also dont want to spend more money, because the money i have left is for if something goes wrong, if i buy a expensive clutch i wont have much money saved up if things go wrong...decisions!! decisions!! this hobby really is a money drainer!!!

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Check out this thread, TONs of information on our clutch:

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....light=gt+exedy

PM Sent BTW

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Z4LIFEBR
there isn't too much information on clutchs on here..im having a hard time finding information on clutchs....i also dont want to spend more money, because the money i have left is for if something goes wrong, if i buy a expensive clutch i wont have much money saved up if things go wrong...decisions!! decisions!! this hobby really is a money drainer!!!
i don't understand how half of you guys on this board budget.. you budget for a built motor and a TT Kit, but can't afford a decent clutch to handle it..

do you guys like run down to your last $1 or something?

if you can't afford the right clutch for the right power.. then don't get a built motor.. run with a stock motor for a little till you can afford the clutch..
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