From reading all these bits about the SCC project 350z for these past couple of years, (As long as it runs strong) it doesn't look like they'd really care if the thing was built in a jungle or run down alley way.

That Z is like their workhorse.

 

it'[s not just about the location the car is in...

 

4 Asian guys < 1 American Julian.

On a serious note, I've had some doubts about them from the beginning, but decided to stay out of it b/c most of our "FI discussions" basically come down to "which side has more articulate fanboys".

But, FWIW, the idea of selling my Z and buying one that is already fully built was appealing to me initially when they came out with their sales pitch. I really got uncomfortable with the whole thing when I was told by them that the engine work is done inhose, yet the breakdown of the motor buildup was a straight copy/paste from the SGP's website.
Go figure...

 

His email seemed appreciative and mentioned they recieved word of this from several sources not just me but asked that we drop the topic of their car. I think it is as doug said. They are going to deal with it their own way and would rather not have the negative publicity around this thread associated with their mag's name. I think we should leave it at that and let them deal with it. If their car comes out with a VRT badge then we all know the final truth and will have our own opinions on that.

 

Hmmm... I guess we'll have to wait and see what unfolds when they do their next update on the project car.

Thanks for the update and clarification.

 

scew that sht. The damage has been done on VRT's reputation, so whatever SCC is having VRT do for them, which they wish to publish is now compromised. They definitely have grounds to sue, and sue they should, and have another shop completely their project car. SCC in my book is just as at fault as VRT if they are try to down play this in order to save face on their part. Throws read flags over both VRT's and SCC's ethics. Very stupid legally, politically, and economically on the SCC's part, me thinks.

 

+1 SCC if they dotn do anything its woudl be quite stupid on their part

 

it depends on the signed contract they have with VRT and what they have to lose. It will then determine if its worth scrapping the whole project or quietly having it completed in its current state. Money talks my friend.

I will tell you at work we went with a Document Management system named Documentum.. and after 3 million dollars... The other Global locations decide they want to settle on another project. Now we are in a battle as to who wins.. more than likely our 3 million dollars will go down the drain and will probably have to spend another 2 million for the new product

 

SCC has enough in their favor at this point to simply break their contract (it should be an easy filing and hearing), and have someone else finish the project. Money in this sense is worthless because of whom SCC is working with. It's not simply a matter of $$$ cost that SCC has to weigh into the equation. This is not as complicated as the battle you are talking about. The contract is more than likely very small comparatively, and SCC would not be the one forced to pay if they choose to settle, it would be VRT, since VRT is the one at fault.

 

Trying to understand the legal aspect of this, nothing more. What does SCC have to put VRT at fault? IS it because the shop was moved back to his house? I dont understand the legal aspect of it.....seems to me that the location of the work being done would not matter to the contract, but again I do not understand this part of the law at all....please explain a little more for me.

 

It would if it is being done in an illegal setup wouldn't it?

 

I think this is the relevance of it all and answers your question...

I think the biggest concern on SCC's side of course would be the lack of proper insurance to cover any damage or loss to their car.

 

I guess...but I thought these types of things for magazines were done kind of like pro bono. I mean that I thought the magazine would provide the parts and the shop would build it and money was not exchanged. Maybe that is my first problem...dont know for sure. If that is the case and no money is being exchanged then how would it be illegal? I guess the first thing I am wondering is whether magazines pay for work or they do a swap, i.e. work for exposure. You know?

 

Tim,
Did you get my PM? It was full when I sent it and wasn't sure if it went through once you cleared your inbox.

 

 

^every freakin time i see a post of yours i'm mesmerized by the sparta smiley for at least 10 seconds. i know i've said this before but.. i'm saying it again.

 

No.I didnt get it.

 

 

I would assume, since SCC represents the tuner community that they have an ethics clause or something that could be an out. why would they want to be associated with a 'shop' that is ripping off thier subscribers?

also, 'VRT' is breaking the law by performing work on a unzoned residential property.

 

As for VRT breaking the law by performing work at his house. I have looked into it and as of right now there is no reason he t do this. From my understanding there are a few permits and licesnes he would have to have and they are attainable per the information I have been given. I spoke with TurboTim yesterday about all this stuff. I am still trying to find out 100% for sure whether it is possible to run a shop out of a house.

Part of the deal is that he is outside city limits and counties do not require a business license to run a business. So, there are some other hurdles I am still finding out about. Just so you guys know, I am not just doing this to clear up questions about VRT, when I spoke with Tim he asked me to let him know what I find out as he would like to know the possibilities of running a shop out of his house.

I have been wondering this whole time, a lot of you guys say that running a shop out of a house you would not take your car there. Is that because you feel the cars would be left out as in the pics at MrA's house? Or is it for some other reason? I dont think there is any reason why a shop run out of a house cant produce the same level of quality as that of a shop. Just curious?