Thanks to DreamWorkesRacing - Supercharger
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Thanks to DreamWorkesRacing - Supercharger
I'd like to thank DreamWorkesRacing for the opportunity for supercharging my car. My car is going in to the Orange County, CA test facility for the blower.
There has been some resistance to the posted motivations of DreamWorkesRacing on this board but after meeting with the development team let me assure your that they mean business and anyone looking for a complete street legal supercharger kit should keep a lookout for the DreamWorkes Racing kit.
Previous posts mentioned an unnamed big name partner and they weren't kidding. The partner shall remain unnamed until they see fit but this company is no weekend garage operation.
The kit will be intercooled with mild boost and it won't stick out of the hood like some blowers requiring a new hood or a hole. They are digitally modeling the engine bay to maximize install efficiency.
Thanks again DreamWorkesRacing.
There has been some resistance to the posted motivations of DreamWorkesRacing on this board but after meeting with the development team let me assure your that they mean business and anyone looking for a complete street legal supercharger kit should keep a lookout for the DreamWorkes Racing kit.
Previous posts mentioned an unnamed big name partner and they weren't kidding. The partner shall remain unnamed until they see fit but this company is no weekend garage operation.
The kit will be intercooled with mild boost and it won't stick out of the hood like some blowers requiring a new hood or a hole. They are digitally modeling the engine bay to maximize install efficiency.
Thanks again DreamWorkesRacing.
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good luck. that will be tight!
see if they can optimize it with the new UR pulleys
so that you can take advantage of the lighter weight crank pullies... or have them make stock replacements at the same radius but of aluminum to save weight...
any details of the maximum impeller speeds and/or if its roots or centrifugal type? i would think it would be hella hard to put a centrifugal type blower in there, unless it was in the same location of the stock air box, with a bracket coming to the side, and the pullies running to the front of the engine...
AND to intercool that.. i would assume you would run the piping to the passenger side of the car and back up and under neath the blower up to the Throttle body??
well hm.. interesting idea none the less--
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see if they can optimize it with the new UR pulleys
so that you can take advantage of the lighter weight crank pullies... or have them make stock replacements at the same radius but of aluminum to save weight...
any details of the maximum impeller speeds and/or if its roots or centrifugal type? i would think it would be hella hard to put a centrifugal type blower in there, unless it was in the same location of the stock air box, with a bracket coming to the side, and the pullies running to the front of the engine...
AND to intercool that.. i would assume you would run the piping to the passenger side of the car and back up and under neath the blower up to the Throttle body??
well hm.. interesting idea none the less--
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Chebosto: It will be a Roots-type blower - rotor speed and induction volume information is unavailable. Intercooler piping would as you might expect be determined by blower placement and i'm not sure on the particulars. I definitely keep people informed on the progress as development continues.
The kit is considered a Stage I upgrade and is expected to be CARB 50-state legal.
That's all i know so far.
The kit is considered a Stage I upgrade and is expected to be CARB 50-state legal.
That's all i know so far.
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Sweet dude! good luck with the Roots!.. man.. that's gonna be interesting on how they're gonna reach the intake manifold w/o going stillen-esq..
unless they have a super compact design similar to the TRD solora supercharger.... and even then you'd got to remove the strut bar...
and i would think its even harder to intercool the roots..
does anyone know how Mercedes Benz do it again? i forget...
wow. sweet..
i think i might pursue my centrifugal-type idea somewhere....
..here we go again!
unless they have a super compact design similar to the TRD solora supercharger.... and even then you'd got to remove the strut bar...
and i would think its even harder to intercool the roots..
does anyone know how Mercedes Benz do it again? i forget...
wow. sweet..
i think i might pursue my centrifugal-type idea somewhere....
..here we go again!
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Chebosto: It will be a Roots-type blower - rotor speed and induction volume information is unavailable. Intercooler piping would as you might expect be determined by blower placement and i'm not sure on the particulars. I definitely keep people informed on the progress as development continues.
The kit is considered a Stage I upgrade and is expected to be CARB 50-state legal.
That's all i know so far.
Chebosto: It will be a Roots-type blower - rotor speed and induction volume information is unavailable. Intercooler piping would as you might expect be determined by blower placement and i'm not sure on the particulars. I definitely keep people informed on the progress as development continues.
The kit is considered a Stage I upgrade and is expected to be CARB 50-state legal.
That's all i know so far.
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MB definitely uses screw type chargers. I just spent all day Friday instructing for the Mercedes-Benz AMG Challenge at Pocono. If your car pulls anywhere even close to the SL55 or E55 AMG I thrashed, you are in for a pleasant surprise...You stomp the gas and the damn thing pulls, pulls, pulls...and then pulls some more. 500+lbs of torque spread oh so nicely...what a rush.
Well, we know you aren't going to be hitting those #'s (they're 5.5 liters), but are there any preliminary guesses as to what kind of numbers you'll be laying down? If this is a Stage I, I'm assuming we're only talking about 5-6psi of boost?
Good luck with it...keep us informed!
Well, we know you aren't going to be hitting those #'s (they're 5.5 liters), but are there any preliminary guesses as to what kind of numbers you'll be laying down? If this is a Stage I, I'm assuming we're only talking about 5-6psi of boost?
Good luck with it...keep us informed!
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Yes it's free.
It'll be gone for a few weeks which is the trade off but that's okay...gonna put miles on the mother-in-law's car while she is out of the country.
Anticipated boost is around 6psi and preliminary numbers are 65-75 rwhp...typical numbers most forced induction kits are offering.
J Ritt: yes its a stage 1 with stock internals with the goal of attaining CARB certification. My car already dyno'd at 235hp with a 239peak. Crank hp post-install if you use 17% crank to wheel hp loss in calculations comes out to about 374 hp at the crank guesstimation.
It'll be gone for a few weeks which is the trade off but that's okay...gonna put miles on the mother-in-law's car while she is out of the country.
Anticipated boost is around 6psi and preliminary numbers are 65-75 rwhp...typical numbers most forced induction kits are offering.
J Ritt: yes its a stage 1 with stock internals with the goal of attaining CARB certification. My car already dyno'd at 235hp with a 239peak. Crank hp post-install if you use 17% crank to wheel hp loss in calculations comes out to about 374 hp at the crank guesstimation.
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Originally posted by bobowah
man... Jim I want your hookups.
WTF are my hookups doing... I want some free sh*T.
Jim if you have any other things that come up... my car is available.
man... Jim I want your hookups.
WTF are my hookups doing... I want some free sh*T.
Jim if you have any other things that come up... my car is available.
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That's great, Jimster. So many people are giving up their Zs for the greater good: yourself, Chebosto, Skidazzle, others... I'll be glad to hear your updates just like everyone else!
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Goran (if thats how you spell it) called me last week to prototype the kit on my car but I didnt wanna go through with it so I never got back to him about it, so it worked out good for you Jimster, good luck
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Originally posted by bobowah
man... Jim I want your hookups.
WTF are my hookups doing... I want some free sh*T.
Jim if you have any other things that come up... my car is available.
man... Jim I want your hookups.
WTF are my hookups doing... I want some free sh*T.
Jim if you have any other things that come up... my car is available.
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I have no intention of putting down DreamWorksRacing or their product, I'm even anxious to see easily available forced induction systems, but just have a few comments:
1) I've seen these "trade my car for FI system" type deals in the past and can't remember a single one of them turning out good. The most memorable is an MR2 Spyder that went from a couple week job to almost a year long job. In the process the engine was blown, and when the owner got the car back everything was wrong, the turbo system was full of bugs, and he ended up selling the vehicle at a big loss.
2) Personally, I wouldn't buy a kit that's R&D consisted of installing something on a car borrowed for a week. With Stillen, Vortech, Greddy, etc you know that you've gotten a kit from a company that has the resources to do the proper extended testing on the vehicle to make sure everything is working well.
1) I've seen these "trade my car for FI system" type deals in the past and can't remember a single one of them turning out good. The most memorable is an MR2 Spyder that went from a couple week job to almost a year long job. In the process the engine was blown, and when the owner got the car back everything was wrong, the turbo system was full of bugs, and he ended up selling the vehicle at a big loss.
2) Personally, I wouldn't buy a kit that's R&D consisted of installing something on a car borrowed for a week. With Stillen, Vortech, Greddy, etc you know that you've gotten a kit from a company that has the resources to do the proper extended testing on the vehicle to make sure everything is working well.
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Maybe the intercooler will be the air-to-water type. I heard that the Ford Lightning has an air-to-water intercooler and it uses a roots-type SC. Maybe the concept is the same with this installation. Good Luck
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My baby went in yesterday for the blower. It will be water-cooled. They have an in-house dyno (Boss?) so they will take baseline runs. For fitments and design, they will be using a pc-connected mechanical arm to locate points in the engine compartment and hood for complete computer 3-D modeling. The design, fitment, and installation will be completely simulated prior to install of the prototype.
These guys are amazing (not a teenage high school auto shop newbie bolt-on specialist in the bunch unlike most fast&furious "tuning" shops here in socal)...one of the main engineers built motors for McLaren Mercedes Formula 1 while at Ilmor Engineering. Then he moved on to TRD to design/build motors for Toyota's championship CART efforts. The older gentleman i spoke with had an exuberance talking about motors, engineering, fuel, racing experience, etc. that made me want to hang out there the whole time my car is in just to soak up his knowledge. When i left the older guy asked, "you will be stopping by often won't you?" meaning he wanted me to check firsthand their progress to make me feel comfortable but i think also to display their expertise.
I am completely comfortable that DreamWorkes Racing will be offering a topnotch street-legal blower kit. After CARB certification, i'm going to have to convince these guys to hook me up with pulleys and turn the boost up a notch.
These guys are amazing (not a teenage high school auto shop newbie bolt-on specialist in the bunch unlike most fast&furious "tuning" shops here in socal)...one of the main engineers built motors for McLaren Mercedes Formula 1 while at Ilmor Engineering. Then he moved on to TRD to design/build motors for Toyota's championship CART efforts. The older gentleman i spoke with had an exuberance talking about motors, engineering, fuel, racing experience, etc. that made me want to hang out there the whole time my car is in just to soak up his knowledge. When i left the older guy asked, "you will be stopping by often won't you?" meaning he wanted me to check firsthand their progress to make me feel comfortable but i think also to display their expertise.
I am completely comfortable that DreamWorkes Racing will be offering a topnotch street-legal blower kit. After CARB certification, i'm going to have to convince these guys to hook me up with pulleys and turn the boost up a notch.