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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Zilvia
what exactly did u tell them the goals where as far as performance/hp?
good ?



Sounds like ya'll had everything worked out already
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I just want to know exactly what the customer paid for when he bought that motor. Was he charged for the "nismo main and head studs" and ported heads? What about the Nismo rod bolts? Shouldn't the rods have come with their own ARP bolts? And honestly, what bona fide engine builder puts together an engine with mostly stock parts and expects to see it last reliably into the 600's?

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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LOL, well, this will be the test of OEM bolts in a built motor. cant wait to see these results.
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
oem main bolts, oem head gaskets, and oem head bolts + = KABOOM!!!
Lets take bets on it. I am in need to make some extra money for a few of my ongoing projects.......
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Any one want to guess at the odds the head gaskets will give on the dyno or soon after full boost is reached ?
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
I just want to know exactly what the customer paid for when he bought that motor. Was he charged for the "nismo main and head studs" and ported heads? What about the Nismo rod bolts? Shouldn't the rods have come with their own ARP bolts?
That would be up to the customer to disclose, but the price was more than fair (so I was told) And yes, the rods DO have ARP bolts in them
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete@BC
Once again, I have no hard feelings for anyone that we have dealt with. I hate being looked on like a ref, everyone hates those guys
Hi Pete, thanks for chiming in. I tried calling you prior to posting this, but couldnt get through to you. I am sorry this had to be posted, and as promised, we all kept your name out of it.

I know you seem to be happy with your car, but you know very well, the concerns I had with this engine, from the moment you sent us the spec sheet. Things just didn't add up. I know you are trying to keep piece between your various business partners, but I still felt it was important for people to know the facts of this, so nobody else gets burned by RA.

I will see you at SEMA. I have no doubt an engine with stock bolts and gaskets can make power. Shops have made 500whp+ with completely stock internals on the dyno for testing purposes. But I didn't want to be the one to tune it to higher boost level, when I knew the components in the engine were not suitable, and were different from what you were originally promised. I am glad you worked out something with Scott, so if anything does happen to this engine, he will cover you. But it doesnt change the facts of this situation.
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
Not that it matters too much, but I have placed SEVERALL calls to Sharif, and left many messages throught this whole process to try to clear all this up (many times in front of some of these forums members). Oh, and I got one call back from him while I wasmin the middle of a Time Attack event.

Originally Posted by Sharif
This is the reason we didnt break the engine down for further inspection. Noah and the customer were informed throughout the entire process. I did return a phone call to Scott, out of courtesy, but I dont think he really wanted to talk to me about this....I am sure he wouldnt like what I had to say
i guess i just miss read his statement then, my fault Scott.
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahzBurnt
Motormouth- Myself and Pete were unaware of my clerical error until shrif noticed the discrepency. Sharif and I spoke immediately and that is when i offered to pay out of pocket for anything that Pete needed to have a safe car. Scott was then informed of teh situation and has since been in contact with pete answering all of his question and mine. I will admit that even I immediately jumped to conclusions when sharif called but called RA to ask them what was going on with this. When i reviewed what was on the invoice...that is when I called and appologized for my mistakes to pete and sharif.
I have two questions:

1 - so sharif did in fact already know the substance of this thread was cleared up with everyone involved? thanks.

2 - your car is going to be at SEMA with the V8 in it??
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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***Thread Jack***

to the guys that worked at VRT and left them......if u were there when my car was being worked on.....if u have any FISHY info on my car...could u please PM me about what was going on!!!thx!
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
I have two questions:

1 - so sharif did in fact already know the substance of this thread was cleared up with everyone involved? thanks.

2 - your car is going to be at SEMA with the V8 in it??
yea thats what im trying to figure out...... something isnt connecting here
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I have NO problem fully waranteeing this motor for any flaws that it might have, and keep it from making (AND HANDELING) the promissed HP. Our motors are used to it, we beat on them all the time. In fact, from a earlier discussion with BC Racings Pete, I might be even driving this car in some Time Attacks / Autocross events next year. I would love the chance to showcaes what that motor can do.
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
Lets take bets on it. I am in need to make some extra money for a few of my ongoing projects.......
you can't be serious. I have personal experience on what the OEM gaskets will hold, along with reading about them on the forums. If you were told the goals of this build was to possibly reach 600, you 100% ripped off your customer. Your reputation is garbage based on your replies to this thread IMHO

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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ughh fawk the drama
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Originally Posted by dozzer1b
***Thread Jack***

to the guys that worked at VRT and left them......if u were there when my car was being worked on.....if u have any FISHY info on my car...could u please PM me about what was going on!!!thx!
Honestly, I was already pretty much out of there when your roadster was there the first time. I am sory for the troubles none the less.
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
Honestly, I was already pretty much out of there when your roadster was there the first time. I am sory for the troubles none the less.

ok...i had thought so....but i was just checking...thanks!
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Originally Posted by Zivman
you can't be serious. I have personal experience on what the OEM gaskets will hold, along with reading about them on the forums. If you were told the goals of this build was to possibly reach 600, you 100% ripped off your customer. Your reputation is garbage based on your replies to this thread IMHO

I am dead serious, and we all soon shall see.
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
I am dead serious, and we all soon shall see.
What makes your OEM bolts and gaskets better than every one else's that failed?
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
I have two questions:

1 - so sharif did in fact already know the substance of this thread was cleared up with everyone involved? thanks.

2 - your car is going to be at SEMA with the V8 in it??
Great questions, BOTH of them. YES to both
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WA2GOOD
I have NO problem fully waranteeing this motor for any flaws that it might have, and keep it from making (AND HANDELING) the promissed HP. Our motors are used to it, we beat on them all the time. In fact, from a earlier discussion with BC Racings Pete, I might be even driving this car in some Time Attacks / Autocross events next year. I would love the chance to showcaes what that motor can do.
Let me get this crystal clear from you...

Do you SERIOUSLY think that OEM main & head bolts along with stock head gasket are suitable for a reliable high 500 to low 600whp engine intended for time attack/autocross races???

Edit: And that is intended to last longer than a race or two, of course.

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