That was a quote from Dsport, from an interview straight from the mouth of one of HKS's founders. Not good enough for you?

 

The Koenigsegg CCX uses twin Rotrex superchargers . . . . same with the F430 Twin Supercharger kit . . .

 

no, not really. for one Dsport is not worth the paper it's printed on IMO and 2 it is a quote, translated obviously from Japanese and with no data to back it up.

 

Do you know what that means? It means improved fuel economy improved durability.

 

Yea, I agree DSPort isn't the greatest mag, but they interviewed him directly. There are graphs and explanations in the article if you are interested. Most of what I said comes from that article, so if that makes me just another on the HKS bandwagon than so be it.

BOTTOM LINE: I WAS WRONG ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE GT SUPERCHARGER IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT OVER THE ROTREX.

But there is a difference (albeit subtle)--It does not equate HKS to a copying sh*t company.
To say that HKS merely "copied" the Rotrex and did no idependent research and development in making the GT supercharger is ignorant and insulting to a company that has been in tuning for 35 years.

One does not have to make a product out of wholecloath to make it a great product. Some of the best inventions are mere improvements over prior ones.

 

Yes, they are fixed. The bearings are mounted to the back plate. I'm not arguing that.

If something that the CEO of HKS says is proof enough, let me get Steve Millen for you. I'm sure he'd love to tell you the merits of the Eaton M62. All that does is take me back to the differences necessary to avoid patent infringement.

And we come full circle and I'd rather not keep arguing.

For the sake of argument, I'd be interested to see them.

 

no I mean the actual technical way in how one is 'fixed' and the other is 'moveable' i.e. 'what the funny words mean'.

you obviously don't and like Helldorado, I am done in this thread.

edit: oops, helldorado explained it for you...

 

And to the op and Helldorado and motormouth--I apologize --I got a little worked up, and I was proven wrong on the traxction response system, but not on the fixed/movable roller issue.

You guys obviously know more than me when it comes to this stuff and I am humbled, ok?

to the op: I'd rather go for the Rotrex over the Vortech given the recent quality control issues Vortech has been having and I;m not sure how their support is in France. But both seem to be good options. I don't think you could go wrong with either

 

does Vortech have dealers in Europe? I know HKS does, right?

 

LOL, yeah you were right on the rollers. Its ok, I'm just as guilty, you came off a little strong with your first response to me and that just fired me up.

 

There are authorized Vortech dealers in the United Kingdom

 

And to the OP. Replacing the additional injector with 6 larger ones is a good step. Go with a real EMS though and not a ECU reflash. The HKS FCON should be availble in your market and will provide you the greatest reliability.

With the stock pulley, I don't think you'll see more than 360-370 whp. You need to get the smaller pulley to hit 400 whp, but it is possible.

 

Despite the negativity going back and forth, I feel this thread (although a lil off topic) did indeed expose some of the mysteries behind the Rotrex and HKS superchargers. I thank you very much for sharing your knowledge! You are an invaluable source to the G/Z community!

You have opened my eyes Helldorado and I have much more respect for you--that is the truth!

And motormouth--you get my upmost respect just for having that avatar

Now can we have an internet hug?

 

Ok, we can internet hug, but lets not turn the thread into teh ghey.

 

 

lol u guys are awesome! No gayness meant, lol. I don't think I could get through the work day without this board and its members.

 

If it makes you feel better Johnnylaw and Helldorado, I gained some knowledge from your discussion. Do you think you could find something else to argue about so that I can read more?

 

Ok,
thank you for your answer, the order have made, we waiting feedback of japan for the new HKS.
I tell you what at the end of the january month, when HKS will be installed
and give you some picture with dyno run
thanks a lot