Injected Performance: Cosworth dyno test at 7000+rpm FI
12-20-2007, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by VIZAGE
It's nice and peforms well. But still not worth it IMO. Then again some paid $800 for the SSV and you all know where that got ya. I'd rather settle for a meth kit upgrade. Good job on getting the testing data out there for everyone to see.
How about Meth Kit amd Cosworth Plenum
12-20-2007, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by VIZAGE
It's nice and peforms well. But still not worth it IMO. Then again some paid $800 for the SSV and you all know where that got ya. I'd rather settle for a meth kit upgrade. Good job on getting the testing data out there for everyone to see.
i guess if you are n/a with stock n/a engine then its not worth it...
but if youa re Fi with build engine then you should consider it
12-20-2007, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by XKR
I have never seen these kind of gains from a spacer 
The Cosworth makes 30hp over stock at $1,100. If a spacer made say 15hp over stock, at $200, then I would be hard pressed to convince myself the Cosworth was worth it. However, if the spacer only made 5hp or so, then the Cosworth is the way to go.
This is not a hard concept really... Cost / Benefit.
12-20-2007, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SpoilsofWar
Okay, neither have I... Whats your point exactly?
The Cosworth makes 30hp over stock at $1,100. If a spacer made say 15hp over stock, at $200, then I would be hard pressed to convince myself the Cosworth was worth it. However, if the spacer only made 5hp or so, then the Cosworth is the way to go.
This is not a hard concept really... Cost / Benefit.
The Cosworth makes 30hp over stock at $1,100. If a spacer made say 15hp over stock, at $200, then I would be hard pressed to convince myself the Cosworth was worth it. However, if the spacer only made 5hp or so, then the Cosworth is the way to go.
This is not a hard concept really... Cost / Benefit.
BUTTTTTTT
Cosworth makes power till REDLINE, so when your racing your power doesn't fall off at higher rpms.... which is a HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Also +1 on the meth kit and cosworth plenum
12-20-2007, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
i guess if you are n/a with stock n/a engine then its not worth it...
but if youa re Fi with build engine then you should consider it
but if youa re Fi with build engine then you should consider it
12-20-2007, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SpoilsofWar
Okay, neither have I... Whats your point exactly?
The Cosworth makes 30hp over stock at $1,100. If a spacer made say 15hp over stock, at $200, then I would be hard pressed to convince myself the Cosworth was worth it. However, if the spacer only made 5hp or so, then the Cosworth is the way to go.
This is not a hard concept really... Cost / Benefit.
The Cosworth makes 30hp over stock at $1,100. If a spacer made say 15hp over stock, at $200, then I would be hard pressed to convince myself the Cosworth was worth it. However, if the spacer only made 5hp or so, then the Cosworth is the way to go.
This is not a hard concept really... Cost / Benefit.
So that already tells me that that $200 would have been better spent on the Cosworth
And now they show a chart that clearly shows the Cosworth making big gains !!
BTW that was 30 - 40 "Whp" gain , not 30 "hp" gain
Last edited by XKR; 12-20-2007 at 04:26 PM.
12-20-2007, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by XKR
I maybe wrong....but didnt Hal post a dyno sheet with stock plenum vs plenum spacer and you could hardly tell which one had spacer and which one didnt, one line on top of the other
So that already tells me that that $200 would have been better spent on the Cosworth
And now they show a chart that clearly shows the Cosworth making big gains !!
BTW that was 30 - 40 "Whp" gain , not 30 "hp" gain
So that already tells me that that $200 would have been better spent on the Cosworth
And now they show a chart that clearly shows the Cosworth making big gains !!
BTW that was 30 - 40 "Whp" gain , not 30 "hp" gain
lets not forget a built motor with APS Extreme Kit on a 3.5L makes about 600 @ 19 PSI and a 4.2L makes about 700 @ 19 PSI IIRC ..
so you can't compare 4.2L gain with a 3.5L gain.. unless you planning to get a 4.2L
12-20-2007, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by doug
unless you planning to get a 4.2L
Doug....when this whole Plenum thing first started....most was saying that if this thing made 17 - 18 whp ...it would be worth it.....Now it shows over 20 and people are still arguing its woorth....at what minimum whp do you all think this thing would be worth the 1G?..
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12-20-2007, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by XKR
Doug...dont be putting my business out there ...
Doug....when this whole Plenum thing first started....most was saying that if this thing made 17 - 18 whp ...it would be worth it.....Now it shows over 20 and people are still arguing its woorth....at what minimum whp do you all think this thing would be worth the 1G?..
Doug....when this whole Plenum thing first started....most was saying that if this thing made 17 - 18 whp ...it would be worth it.....Now it shows over 20 and people are still arguing its woorth....at what minimum whp do you all think this thing would be worth the 1G?..
12-20-2007, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by westpak
was the stock setup with revup lower plenum or non-revup lower plenum?
12-21-2007, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
+1. It would seem that the RevUP runners are designed more for 7000+ operation. I would think the Revup lower will start to find a home for some guys once people start truly building their setups for higher RPM power.
12-21-2007, 05:05 AM
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+1
My car (06) with just the aam spacer keeps gaining power all the way to redline. It could be the revup lower plenum or it might be those big a$$ turbo's i have
My car (06) with just the aam spacer keeps gaining power all the way to redline. It could be the revup lower plenum or it might be those big a$$ turbo's i have
12-21-2007, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by eagletanggreen
You guys are jacking this thread...up!
there should be a different thread to compare to the motordyne products...
I have personally used them and i got no that much gaims FIed...and this plenum does look quite promisint in the top end and on...
12-21-2007, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
I have personally used them and i got no that much gaims FIed...
I have heard this several times now. And I have heard the exact opposite just as many times from as many people. Injected just posted 15HP on their TN vehicle with a spacer. Taurran and you didn't get anywhere close to that.
If FI spacer gains sometimes happen and sometimes don't, why is this the case?
And will the same performance variability exist with the Cosworth and or Revup plenum?
What other FI variables are there that would make it sometimes happen and sometime not? Mechanical? Tuning?
IDK
Its wierd.