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Old 06-11-2008, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by c3 rolling
not too sure. The knock is so elusive that I cant really tell. Seems WOT on first gear will trigger the knocking near redline. Once the meth/water starts to really work it would stop. If I WOT from a 40 mph cruise it wouldnt knock, possibly the pre mix had enough time to really cool things down and work..

So why not just tone down the tune up top? Adding more meth will just create more problem. The quickest way to find out is just remove a couple of degree of timing up top (knock area) and see if the knock goes away. Adding more meth will put your entire tune out of balance.
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Have you ruled out a bad knock sensor? Would the ECU through a code if it was bad or even marginal in performance? Having this problem with the Stillen and now Vortech suggests a system problem.
Old 06-11-2008, 11:06 AM
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IMHO meth seems more like a bandaid at this point. Didn't you have a stillen S/C before? Did your car have detonation then?
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Originally Posted by jpc350z
Have you ruled out a bad knock sensor? Would the ECU through a code if it was bad or even marginal in performance? Having this problem with the Stillen and now Vortech suggests a system problem.
I have audible knock at high rpms
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Originally Posted by ESP350Z
IMHO meth seems more like a bandaid at this point. Didn't you have a stillen S/C before? Did your car have detonation then?

Yes it did, only on stage 3 though. Never heard knock on stage 2
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Originally Posted by c3 rolling
I have audible knock at high rpms
If you can actually hear knock above road noise and exhaust... Then it's pretty bad knock... I'd back the tune off a bit and look for any mechanical problems before adding more meth. Otherwise you're going to have a pile of broken parts on your hands.

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Old 06-12-2008, 10:01 AM
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timing has already been reduced in high rpms about a week ago. Even though its possibly okay now, the fact that my car is knocking too easily is still an issue. What mechanically can cause this knock? plugs, leaks, injectors, have been checked
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From a quick google search,

The most common symptom of excessive oil clearances is an awful knock coming from the engine. Low oil pressure is also a symptom of excessive oil clearances but is less common (by the time the oil pressure goes low there's usually an engine knock evident). Engine knock can be caused by worn rod bearings, main bearings, piston pins, pistons, and cam bearings. Sometimes some types of engine knock can be repaired with the engine in the car. The engine must be partially disassembled to know for sure.
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damn, how the fark can my engine components be worn if I bought the car new a year ago and it only has 25k miles on it. Most of it was N/A with conservative highway miles. Never tracked or abused
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dont know if this is relevant but when I was N/A i was getting 21 mpg but now with the vortech im getting 27 mpg. Granted my commute has changed a bit but the difference seems really large
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you should do an oil analysis... blackstone-labs.com

this will tell you if its your bearings or not...

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