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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JET MECH
blocked off lower plenum fitting, installed a catch for each side "dual catch cans", then plumbed each line exiting the catch cans to the inlet side of the supercharger. i have periodicaly checked my intercoller and plumbing for residual oil and none has been found ,this setup is working superbly!! all other setups i have configured has netted some type of oil in the ic,ic piping or the plenum. now there there is no oil to be found in these componets as well as my oil stays cleaner longer with nearly no oil consumption between oil changes. i am going to try and post some pics, i think that will explain things better.
JET - does your S/C inlet actually provide that much vacuum? I imagine with a high-flow filter acting as a large vacuum leak, there really wouldn't be that much vacuum on the lines going to the crankcase breathers.

Has anyone ever measured vacuum from a turbo or s/c air inlet?
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyC
Bringing this back up...

Spoils - do you not have any idle issues, such as a high-idle or other symptoms of a vacuum leak? With the breather on the driver's side crankcase, you would think the intake manifold would be able to suck in a decent amount of unmetered and unregulated air through the passenger side PCV.
No idle issues, no issues at all. The breather on the driver's side attaches to the valve cover - the intake manifold has no direct path to it. Quite a few people on this forum are running open breathers on the drivers side without issues.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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That's good news. I don't know why it wouldn't have a bit of any idle surge, since the both crankcase breathers are connected (through the crankcase itself, and the crossover tube). So when the intake is sucking in air through the passenger side PCV, it should be sucking air in through the driver's side breather tube.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyC
Bringing this back up...

Spoils - do you not have any idle issues, such as a high-idle or other symptoms of a vacuum leak? With the breather on the driver's side crankcase, you would think the intake manifold would be able to suck in a decent amount of unmetered and unregulated air through the passenger side PCV.

I actually just went ahead and purchased some check valves like you have from here - http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/var...riant_id=64175
Thanks for the link. Those valves work well - look to be identical to what I picked up - Viton and Kynar components. They work in any orientation (gravity independent) and are resistant to gas/oil vapor.

For the price, I would change them out once in a while so picking up spares isn't a bad idea.

I suspect that the amount of unmetered air from the driver's side breather is miniscule compared to that coming through the intake, which is why no one (with a MAF) has reported issues. Keep in mind during idle (high vacuum condition), the PCV valve actually flows less air.

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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I just got back from the track today and my intercooler all the way up my intake pipe were filled with oil. So much oil that I blew one of the silicone couplers off the MAF sensor to intake pipe joint. If it's not the turbo's seals where else could all this oil be comming from.

I would have posted an update sooner, but I had not driven my car since I posted this thread.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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If the IC is filled, it's likely from the turbos (esp. given that you have catch cans for oil coming out of the crankcase, etc). Either because the seals are shot or something is pushing the oil out (too much oil pressure, not small enough oil restrictor, oil drainage issue due to crankcase pressure etc.). Some good ideas for addressing what you can in this thread... If all else fails, then turbo seal rebuild time...

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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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The turbos only have about 3300mi on them!
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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I have a good amount of oil at the bottom of my intercooler and my turbos are new also
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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I will be investigating the cause and a solution to this issue as soon as I can get my car apart.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Do you have a catch can on the drivers side PVC hose? All that oil in the intake track will also make the engine more prone to detonation.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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The drivers side from what I recall has no PCV valve, its only a breather.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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I have a feeling that the oil is comming out of the breather on the drivers side valve cover and going into the intake. The right hand turns at the track are allowing oil to blow/be sucked out the breather and enter the intake behind the air filter.
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Sorry I dont have much input but this is all new to me. Taking notes and learning. Its funny because my Z lets out random puffs of smoke alot of times at the same stop light. It only happenes when Im at a stop after driving but alot of times it when I get to a certain light after a hill or making a couple of repetiive turns. Now that I think about it its usually on left hand turns???????
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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
The drivers side from what I recall has no PCV valve, its only a breather.
Sorry, what I meant was the PCV hose on the drivers side the goes from the valve cover to the intake pipe, that can allow oil to go into the intake manifold while under boost, therefore a catch can is recommended. On my personal car I just have it venting to the atmosphere towards the bottom of the car so it is unseen.

Try that first before replacing the turbos, just to eliminate another possible cause.

Good luck Jet,

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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Just got finished installing my KrantVent check valves and redo-ing all of my pcv hosing ...

The smaller valve on the pipe that connects to the plenum stops pressurised air when under boost from going back into the crankcase, and the larger valve guarantees that no un-metered air will enter the plenum while under vacuum ...

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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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I had a collapsed hose coming out of my catch can into a breather filter. I put a better hose and a new filter on and I havent puffed smoke in 2 months. Also I use to have to add oil every 3 days and the oil levell stays the same now.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cersoft
Just got finished installing my KrantVent check valves and redo-ing all of my pcv hosing ...

The smaller valve on the pipe that connects to the plenum stops pressurised air when under boost from going back into the crankcase, and the larger valve guarantees that no un-metered air will enter the plenum while under vacuum ...

Are the valves inline on the black hose? What catch can is that? Got a link where to find the check valves?
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Originally Posted by Cass007
Are the valves inline on the black hose? What catch can is that? Got a link where to find the check valves?
Yes, the smaller of the 2 is inline in the black hose on the left by the reservoir and the larger in at the bottom inline in the black hose ...

Link to KrankVent ...

http://www.et-performance.com/turbo.html

Oh and the catch can is a topspeed item I picked up from ebay for $29 .... !!
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyC
Bringing this back up...

Spoils - do you not have any idle issues, such as a high-idle or other symptoms of a vacuum leak? With the breather on the driver's side crankcase, you would think the intake manifold would be able to suck in a decent amount of unmetered and unregulated air through the passenger side PCV.

I actually just went ahead and purchased some check valves like you have from here - http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/var...riant_id=64175
just ordered some today
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by doug
just ordered some today
They will definitely stop the boost, but the only thing that might be an issue with these is the air flow. But I got the link from another site where people were using this for the same reason we are.
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