Powerlab 37r install begins tonight..
#147
Originally Posted by jeffie7
I didn't even see this thread.
Is your downpipe any larger then the GT35R kits? I have zero rubbing with mine, however I did have to remove some metal for the charge pipe that goes from the left side of the I/C up thru where the windshield washer fluid goes.
Other then that I haven't had any issues that I know of, with rubbing.
Is your downpipe any larger then the GT35R kits? I have zero rubbing with mine, however I did have to remove some metal for the charge pipe that goes from the left side of the I/C up thru where the windshield washer fluid goes.
Other then that I haven't had any issues that I know of, with rubbing.
#148
Originally Posted by SnyperZ
No its the same..maybe the cars are a little different..it fits nice now though. Anyways, we both have a problem that needs to be addressed. The bovs are being shipped with a spring thats too heavy for our cars and we are both getting compressor surge bad. We need to drop down to the 11psi spring or 9 so it will fully open.I hear it on your videos too. They ship with 12psi springs which you need to pull more than -22hg in order to open it. My car pullls around 18-19hg which says it needs either the 11 or 9 spring to fully open.
#150
Originally Posted by SnyperZ
No its the same..maybe the cars are a little different..it fits nice now though. Anyways, we both have a problem that needs to be addressed. The bovs are being shipped with a spring thats too heavy for our cars and we are both getting compressor surge bad. We need to drop down to the 11psi spring or 9 so it will fully open.I hear it on your videos too. They ship with 12psi springs which you need to pull more than -22hg in order to open it. My car pullls around 18-19hg which says it needs either the 11 or 9 spring to fully open.
Mark Ive finally found a lil time and been examining your video more closely ....now that finally the baby is sleep and not at work with bad speakers lol.
I think you are hearing flutter... not surge.
Surge is way louder, major compressor surge sounds alot different, its like a duck going crazy while accelerating. Its the spring fluttering, the piston in the bov flutters when you decelerate.
How many things things tee'd off your BOV, it needs to have its on vacumm line.
Whatch this: http://video.google.com/videosearch?...8&sa=N&tab=wv#
see how that its under boost and no vacuum? Compressor surge that would kill a turbo would happen under load not under vacuum, and if i recall i think you are mostly pushing half throttle.
I really believe its flutter what you hear... its not a big deal and that the reasons the tials flutter like that is because they simply dont leak. TIal BOVs are known for pretty much "killing" surge...that same flutter you hear it with an hks too.
This is the better example i found of what real surge is:
<embed src="http://videos.streetfire.net/vidiac.swf?video=True-Turbo-Compressor_163406" width="428" height="352" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" /><br/><a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/video/True-Turbo-Compressor_163406.htm">True Turbo Compressor Surge</a>...now that is real massive
this is flutter
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not necesarly normal but its fine. Pretty much the majority of the positive pressure is released. it might shorten the life of the turbo by 2% over 20-30k miles
IMO i would rather have a BOV that isnt weak at all because chances are it could leak especially at higher boost...
You come form a supra background, I know a couple 18 year old supras have been running HKS SSQVs that "fake surge" for 10 years and put 50,000 miles on it and the stock turbos dont have shaft play
I would wait till you funnly tune your car and run consistantly at full throttle before you jump onto something
Last edited by IIQuickSilverII; 08-26-2008 at 10:43 PM.
#152
Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
Mark Ive finally found a lil time and been examining your video more closely ....now that finally the baby is sleep and not at work with bad speakers lol.
I think you are hearing flutter... not surge.
Surge is way louder, major compressor surge sounds alot different, its like a duck going crazy while accelerating. Its the spring fluttering, the piston in the bov flutters when you decelerate.
How many things things tee'd off your BOV, it needs to have its on vacumm line.
Whatch this: http://video.google.com/videosearch?...8&sa=N&tab=wv#
see how that its under boost and no vacuum? Compressor surge that would kill a turbo would happen under load not under vacuum, and if i recall i think you are mostly pushing half throttle.
I really believe its flutter what you hear... its not a big deal and that the reasons the tials flutter like that is because they simply dont leak. TIal BOVs are known for pretty much "killing" surge...that same flutter you hear it with an hks too.
This is the better example i found of what real surge is:
<EMBED pluginspage=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer src="" width=428 height=352 type=application/x-shockwave-flash http: videos.streetfire.net vidiac.swf?video="True-Turbo-Compressor_163406">
True Turbo Compressor Surge...now that is real massive
this is flutter
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not necesarly normal but its fine. Pretty much the majority of the positive pressure is released. it might shorten the life of the turbo by 2% over 20-30k miles
IMO i would rather have a BOV that isnt weak at all because chances are it could leak especially at higher boost...
You come form a supra background, I know a couple 18 year old supras have been running HKS SSQVs that "fake surge" for 10 years and put 50,000 miles on it and the stock turbos dont have shaft play
I would wait till you funnly tune your car and run consistantly at full throttle before you jump onto something
I think you are hearing flutter... not surge.
Surge is way louder, major compressor surge sounds alot different, its like a duck going crazy while accelerating. Its the spring fluttering, the piston in the bov flutters when you decelerate.
How many things things tee'd off your BOV, it needs to have its on vacumm line.
Whatch this: http://video.google.com/videosearch?...8&sa=N&tab=wv#
see how that its under boost and no vacuum? Compressor surge that would kill a turbo would happen under load not under vacuum, and if i recall i think you are mostly pushing half throttle.
I really believe its flutter what you hear... its not a big deal and that the reasons the tials flutter like that is because they simply dont leak. TIal BOVs are known for pretty much "killing" surge...that same flutter you hear it with an hks too.
This is the better example i found of what real surge is:
<EMBED pluginspage=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer src="" width=428 height=352 type=application/x-shockwave-flash http: videos.streetfire.net vidiac.swf?video="True-Turbo-Compressor_163406">
True Turbo Compressor Surge...now that is real massive
this is flutter
<OBJECT height=344 width=425>
&nbsp
&nbsp
<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jEUWEsqoWz8&color1=11645361&color2=13619151&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="344"></embed></OBJECT>
not necesarly normal but its fine. Pretty much the majority of the positive pressure is released. it might shorten the life of the turbo by 2% over 20-30k miles
IMO i would rather have a BOV that isnt weak at all because chances are it could leak especially at higher boost...
You come form a supra background, I know a couple 18 year old supras have been running HKS SSQVs that "fake surge" for 10 years and put 50,000 miles on it and the stock turbos dont have shaft play
I would wait till you funnly tune your car and run consistantly at full throttle before you jump onto something
Last edited by SnyperZ; 08-27-2008 at 07:43 AM.
#153
Originally Posted by SlideFox
Is Intense going to send you the other spring??
#156
Originally Posted by thawk408
I think my car pulls over 20 in/mg. You might have a vaccum leak.
at a stop at idle mine pulls 17.9. While driving it will pull over 22 momentarily.
#157
Originally Posted by SlideFox
Marc, did you ask Tial about this?
They said if you don't request a specific spring they send you an 11psi spring. They said you have to have to check your vacuum parked at idle and they gave me a few numbers and mine fell into the 9psi spring range. The BOV should be wide open at idle. The vacuum is what compresses the spring holding it open and as soon as you apply throttle the spring closes and the boost+spring pressure is what holds it closed under accel.
#159
Originally Posted by doug
at a stop at idle i am at 20 ... 22 when i'm in gear and off the gas