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Old 08-26-2008 | 03:24 PM
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got mount... no camera
Well buy a camera.
Old 08-26-2008 | 03:28 PM
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Well buy a camera.
after i sell my car
Old 08-26-2008 | 03:33 PM
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after i sell my car
Which one? (waiting on vids of OP z.. )
Old 08-26-2008 | 03:34 PM
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Which one? (waiting on vids of OP z.. )
the one thats competing with yours in the for sale forum
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Stock they trap right around 150mph so around 800whp sounds about right.. and thats stock!
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theres a quick little video of first second and 3rd...on 4psi going through the stock exhaust.
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I didn't even see this thread.

Is your downpipe any larger then the GT35R kits? I have zero rubbing with mine, however I did have to remove some metal for the charge pipe that goes from the left side of the I/C up thru where the windshield washer fluid goes.
Other then that I haven't had any issues that I know of, with rubbing.
No its the same..maybe the cars are a little different..it fits nice now though. Anyways, we both have a problem that needs to be addressed. The bovs are being shipped with a spring thats too heavy for our cars and we are both getting compressor surge bad. We need to drop down to the 11psi spring or 9 so it will fully open.I hear it on your videos too. They ship with 12psi springs which you need to pull more than -22hg in order to open it. My car pullls around 18-19hg which says it needs either the 11 or 9 spring to fully open.
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No its the same..maybe the cars are a little different..it fits nice now though. Anyways, we both have a problem that needs to be addressed. The bovs are being shipped with a spring thats too heavy for our cars and we are both getting compressor surge bad. We need to drop down to the 11psi spring or 9 so it will fully open.I hear it on your videos too. They ship with 12psi springs which you need to pull more than -22hg in order to open it. My car pullls around 18-19hg which says it needs either the 11 or 9 spring to fully open.
Is Intense going to send you the other spring??
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I see you beat the EVO!!!!
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Originally Posted by SnyperZ
No its the same..maybe the cars are a little different..it fits nice now though. Anyways, we both have a problem that needs to be addressed. The bovs are being shipped with a spring thats too heavy for our cars and we are both getting compressor surge bad. We need to drop down to the 11psi spring or 9 so it will fully open.I hear it on your videos too. They ship with 12psi springs which you need to pull more than -22hg in order to open it. My car pullls around 18-19hg which says it needs either the 11 or 9 spring to fully open.

Mark Ive finally found a lil time and been examining your video more closely ....now that finally the baby is sleep and not at work with bad speakers lol.
I think you are hearing flutter... not surge.
Surge is way louder, major compressor surge sounds alot different, its like a duck going crazy while accelerating. Its the spring fluttering, the piston in the bov flutters when you decelerate.

How many things things tee'd off your BOV, it needs to have its on vacumm line.


Whatch this: http://video.google.com/videosearch?...8&sa=N&tab=wv#

see how that its under boost and no vacuum? Compressor surge that would kill a turbo would happen under load not under vacuum, and if i recall i think you are mostly pushing half throttle.

I really believe its flutter what you hear... its not a big deal and that the reasons the tials flutter like that is because they simply dont leak. TIal BOVs are known for pretty much "killing" surge...that same flutter you hear it with an hks too.

This is the better example i found of what real surge is:
<embed src="http://videos.streetfire.net/vidiac.swf?video=True-Turbo-Compressor_163406" width="428" height="352" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" /><br/><a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/video/True-Turbo-Compressor_163406.htm">True Turbo Compressor Surge</a>...now that is real massive


this is flutter
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/jEUWEsqoWz8&color1=11645361&color2=13619151&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jEUWEsqoWz8&color1=11645361&color2=13619151&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
not necesarly normal but its fine. Pretty much the majority of the positive pressure is released. it might shorten the life of the turbo by 2% over 20-30k miles

IMO i would rather have a BOV that isnt weak at all because chances are it could leak especially at higher boost...

You come form a supra background, I know a couple 18 year old supras have been running HKS SSQVs that "fake surge" for 10 years and put 50,000 miles on it and the stock turbos dont have shaft play
I would wait till you funnly tune your car and run consistantly at full throttle before you jump onto something

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good luck figuring out your problem. any pics of how you notched the IC to fit the bumper brace?
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
Mark Ive finally found a lil time and been examining your video more closely ....now that finally the baby is sleep and not at work with bad speakers lol.
I think you are hearing flutter... not surge.
Surge is way louder, major compressor surge sounds alot different, its like a duck going crazy while accelerating. Its the spring fluttering, the piston in the bov flutters when you decelerate.

How many things things tee'd off your BOV, it needs to have its on vacumm line.


Whatch this: http://video.google.com/videosearch?...8&sa=N&tab=wv#

see how that its under boost and no vacuum? Compressor surge that would kill a turbo would happen under load not under vacuum, and if i recall i think you are mostly pushing half throttle.

I really believe its flutter what you hear... its not a big deal and that the reasons the tials flutter like that is because they simply dont leak. TIal BOVs are known for pretty much "killing" surge...that same flutter you hear it with an hks too.

This is the better example i found of what real surge is:
<EMBED pluginspage=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer src="" width=428 height=352 type=application/x-shockwave-flash http: videos.streetfire.net vidiac.swf?video="True-Turbo-Compressor_163406">
True Turbo Compressor Surge...now that is real massive


this is flutter

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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jEUWEsqoWz8&color1=11645361&color2=13619151&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="344"></embed></OBJECT>
not necesarly normal but its fine. Pretty much the majority of the positive pressure is released. it might shorten the life of the turbo by 2% over 20-30k miles

IMO i would rather have a BOV that isnt weak at all because chances are it could leak especially at higher boost...

You come form a supra background, I know a couple 18 year old supras have been running HKS SSQVs that "fake surge" for 10 years and put 50,000 miles on it and the stock turbos dont have shaft play
I would wait till you funnly tune your car and run consistantly at full throttle before you jump onto something
no its surge. I can feel it come out of the compressor with my hand..also it keeps blowing the nylon screen off the front of the opening. That thing should never come off unless air was coming out the other way. Also, the tial 50mm on my trans am would open up wide as soon as you started the car...this car doesnt pull enough vacuum to open the 12 and 11psi springs..tial actually rates different springs for different hgs..my car pulls 17.9 at idle which is set for the 9lbs spring.....the BOV is on its own vacuum line.

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Originally Posted by SlideFox
Is Intense going to send you the other spring??
No, I didn't even contact them about the issue. Im going to try the spring first and if it works then ill call em and let them know.
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I think my car pulls over 20 in/mg. You might have a vaccum leak.
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Marc, did you ask Tial about this?
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Originally Posted by thawk408
I think my car pulls over 20 in/mg. You might have a vaccum leak.

at a stop at idle mine pulls 17.9. While driving it will pull over 22 momentarily.
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Originally Posted by SlideFox
Marc, did you ask Tial about this?

They said if you don't request a specific spring they send you an 11psi spring. They said you have to have to check your vacuum parked at idle and they gave me a few numbers and mine fell into the 9psi spring range. The BOV should be wide open at idle. The vacuum is what compresses the spring holding it open and as soon as you apply throttle the spring closes and the boost+spring pressure is what holds it closed under accel.
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Originally Posted by SnyperZ
at a stop at idle mine pulls 17.9. While driving it will pull over 22 momentarily.
at a stop at idle i am at 20 ... 22 when i'm in gear and off the gas
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Originally Posted by doug
at a stop at idle i am at 20 ... 22 when i'm in gear and off the gas
yeah its strange..if im rolling at idle it sits at 20-22 as soon as I come to a stop it goes down to 17.9
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I had some idle issues with my Turboxs BOV, but we stacked some "fine tuning" washers in it, and car idles perfect now


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