Help! Utec MAP selector problem.
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Your data logs look good and looks like u are on the right map due to the timing being conservative. But like every one else said its hard to say with our air/fuel.
Inno air fuel connects like the aem with a serial port. I use mps due to easier to use for me.
I don't know what your asking on the last question. I highly suggest reading the utec manual. It will answer all.
Inno air fuel connects like the aem with a serial port. I use mps due to easier to use for me.
I don't know what your asking on the last question. I highly suggest reading the utec manual. It will answer all.
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Judging by your logs you are running +12.5 timing at 8.5 psi which is really conservative. Who tuned your car if u don't mind me asking.
Also it looks like u need to adjust the throttle % looks like it never went over 95% at wot.
Also it looks like u need to adjust the throttle % looks like it never went over 95% at wot.
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always use logger 1 its 100 times better there you go:
RPM= 6093
Thottle %= 095
Boost= +8.2
Load Site= 80
Timing= +12.2 (when showing ECU that means the Factory ECU is in-charge not UTEC)
A/F = rich (of course its not WB)
Knock = 00000 ( i guess so )
Logger one will sound more complicated but its much much better
RPM= 6093
Thottle %= 095
Boost= +8.2
Load Site= 80
Timing= +12.2 (when showing ECU that means the Factory ECU is in-charge not UTEC)
A/F = rich (of course its not WB)
Knock = 00000 ( i guess so )
Logger one will sound more complicated but its much much better
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Thanks for the help guys. I would have read the manual, but I don't have one.
The car was tuned by JT @ Performance Factory. I was there while he was tuning it and he showed me everything and said it was good. Had made a little more power. I asked him to make it a little safer even though he said it was already. I figured I wouldn't miss a few ponies til I build the motor.
At some points it went over 100. What does that mean?
At some points it went over 100. What does that mean?
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Mine does the same thing, although probably goes to 101 only. You have to calibrate your throttle with settings in the UTEC. The manual explains it, but basically there's a off-throttle reading that you need to enter, and full-throttle reading.
Here it is from the manual...
TPS Minimum Value for Mapping is used to calibrate the TPS sensor. Modify the value so that the TPS value on the Dashboard reads 0% when the throttle is not being touched.
TPS Maximum Value for Mapping is used to calibrate the TPS sensor. Modify the value so that the TPS value reads 100% when the throttle is fully depressed. You can do this using the Dashboard with the key in and in the ‘ON’ position but the car off. Fully depress the throttle and make modify the voltage value until it reads 100% at WOT.
Here it is from the manual...
TPS Minimum Value for Mapping is used to calibrate the TPS sensor. Modify the value so that the TPS value on the Dashboard reads 0% when the throttle is not being touched.
TPS Maximum Value for Mapping is used to calibrate the TPS sensor. Modify the value so that the TPS value reads 100% when the throttle is fully depressed. You can do this using the Dashboard with the key in and in the ‘ON’ position but the car off. Fully depress the throttle and make modify the voltage value until it reads 100% at WOT.
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3542 101 +2.6 30 +16.2 rich 00000
3654 104 +3.3 30 +15.6 rich 00000
3783 103 +4.0 40 +15.1 rich 00000
3912 103 +4.7 40 +14.1 rich 00000
4045 104 +5.4 50 +13.2 rich 00000
4182 104 +6.2 60 +12.4 rich 00000
4323 103 +7.1 70 +11.4 rich 00000
4498 103 +7.7 70 +10.1 rich 00000
4688 104 +7.8 70 +9.6 rich 00000
4796 104 +7.7 70 +9.6 rich 00000
4997 103 +7.6 70 +10.0 rich 00000
5144 103 +7.6 70 +10.5 rich 00000
5274 103 +7.8 70 +11.0 rich 00000
5473 102 +7.8 70 +11.2 rich 00000
5621 102 +7.8 70 +11.6 rich 00000
5767 101 +8.0 70 +11.7 rich 00000
5910 096 +8.1 70 +12.0 rich 00000
6016 095 +8.1 80 +12.0 rich 00000
6093 095 +8.2 80 +12.2 rich 00000
6277 067 +8.4 80 +12.5 rich 00000
3654 104 +3.3 30 +15.6 rich 00000
3783 103 +4.0 40 +15.1 rich 00000
3912 103 +4.7 40 +14.1 rich 00000
4045 104 +5.4 50 +13.2 rich 00000
4182 104 +6.2 60 +12.4 rich 00000
4323 103 +7.1 70 +11.4 rich 00000
4498 103 +7.7 70 +10.1 rich 00000
4688 104 +7.8 70 +9.6 rich 00000
4796 104 +7.7 70 +9.6 rich 00000
4997 103 +7.6 70 +10.0 rich 00000
5144 103 +7.6 70 +10.5 rich 00000
5274 103 +7.8 70 +11.0 rich 00000
5473 102 +7.8 70 +11.2 rich 00000
5621 102 +7.8 70 +11.6 rich 00000
5767 101 +8.0 70 +11.7 rich 00000
5910 096 +8.1 70 +12.0 rich 00000
6016 095 +8.1 80 +12.0 rich 00000
6093 095 +8.2 80 +12.2 rich 00000
6277 067 +8.4 80 +12.5 rich 00000
oh lol i see now were you went to 104% throttle.... my bad i just took a quick glance at the max boost point .... you should be fine as long as your throttle is reading a little more over 100% you are ok ... but since jt tuned it i know he tuned it for 90% and 100% column so it wont make a dif ...
I agree with you that conservative is the way to go ... +12.5 is good atleast you know that you can get more power by adj timing a little and that you are not at your mid point ....
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oh lol i see now were you went to 104% throttle.... my bad i just took a quick glance at the max boost point .... you should be fine as long as your throttle is reading a little more over 100% you are ok ... but since jt tuned it i know he tuned it for 90% and 100% column so it wont make a dif ...
I agree with you that conservative is the way to go ... +12.5 is good atleast you know that you can get more power by adj timing a little and that you are not at your mid point ....
I agree with you that conservative is the way to go ... +12.5 is good atleast you know that you can get more power by adj timing a little and that you are not at your mid point ....
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To many things to consider, what octane gas are you using? With 93 octane then you can still bump the timing above 6000rpm and 8psi to 14deg and still be on the safe side.. 12deg close to redline is a little low, maybe at peak TQ 12-13deg is good.. Looking at your logs, 10deg at peak TQ is kinda low for a custom tune.... Maybe JT saw some knock up in the higher rpm and that is why he went extra conservative on your car. As stated already for so many times, use logger 1 to log.
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So, when tuning. Around where peak tq is made timing SHOULD be a little lower? Or are you thinking just maybe there was a reason he did it? I'm sorry if I am asking to many questions. I'm trying to learn tuning. Maybe not for the extent of complete tuning myself, but modifying it for add on's.
Is there anything (threads or sites) anyone knows that are good for learning?
Is there anything (threads or sites) anyone knows that are good for learning?
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So, when tuning. Around where peak tq is made timing SHOULD be a little lower? Or are you thinking just maybe there was a reason he did it? I'm sorry if I am asking to many questions. I'm trying to learn tuning. Maybe not for the extent of complete tuning myself, but modifying it for add on's.
Is there anything (threads or sites) anyone knows that are good for learning?
Is there anything (threads or sites) anyone knows that are good for learning?
as stated before read the manual 10 times and read it again while playing with the utec ..... there are a lot of articles out there in the wrx world about how to tune ....
heres a quick one to get you started ....
http://www.mickandsarah.com/wrx/UTEC...Deux-notes.pdf
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as stated before read the manual 10 times and read it again while playing with the utec ..... there are a lot of articles out there in the wrx world about how to tune ....
heres a quick one to get you started ....
http://www.mickandsarah.com/wrx/UTEC...Deux-notes.pdf
heres a quick one to get you started ....
http://www.mickandsarah.com/wrx/UTEC...Deux-notes.pdf
I looked around but couldn't find anything on it. Any idea what that's about?
I run a log on the way to work under Logger 1 and got a KNOCK count at 5952. Is this something I should worry about? The log is attached and was done in 4th gear.
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Nope....got another one for you guys! lol
Reading the manual it talks about tuning the 0% column for drive ability. It also speaks about setting the parameters so the Utec will be in control 100% of the time "Like a standalone", never in the 0% column. Would adjusting the 0% column help with hot start problems I'm having?
Reading the manual it talks about tuning the 0% column for drive ability. It also speaks about setting the parameters so the Utec will be in control 100% of the time "Like a standalone", never in the 0% column. Would adjusting the 0% column help with hot start problems I'm having?