Notices
Forced Induction Turbochargers and Superchargers..Got Boost?

Kinetix SSV with a TN Kit

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-10-2008, 07:41 PM
  #1  
vinnycuz
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
vinnycuz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Howard Beach, NY
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Kinetix SSV with a TN Kit

I have been talking to the guy who is going to Tune my car and I found that he says that the Kinetix SSV manifold is poorly designed and will actually make my front two cylinders run lean causing damage is tuned for power. Is this true? Has anyone here used a SSV with their TN or other Turbo Application. I just don't see how this can be!

--Vinny
Old 10-10-2008, 08:56 PM
  #2  
Havok_RLS2
Registered User
iTrader: (9)
 
Havok_RLS2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bowie, MD
Posts: 2,384
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by vinnycuz
I have been talking to the guy who is going to Tune my car and I found that he says that the Kinetix SSV manifold is poorly designed and will actually make my front two cylinders run lean causing damage is tuned for power. Is this true? Has anyone here used a SSV with their TN or other Turbo Application. I just don't see how this can be!

--Vinny
I've heard the same thing but I also know that one of the shops managed to make about 430+ Hp with the SSV and TN kit.
I wish someone would really chime in with an answer on this.
Old 10-10-2008, 08:59 PM
  #3  
frankie945
Registered User
iTrader: (35)
 
frankie945's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: louisvile KY
Posts: 852
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've heard the same thing, there just for looks.
Old 10-10-2008, 10:43 PM
  #4  
sentry65
the burninator
iTrader: (11)
 
sentry65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: phoenix, AZ
Posts: 9,722
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

the SSV gains power if you have either headers, cams, larger valves, or porting

otherwise with stock heads and stock exhaust manifolds or shorter manifolds like some of the TT kits, then it'll lose power
Old 10-11-2008, 06:42 AM
  #5  
350 Rookie
Banned
iTrader: (29)
 
350 Rookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Cheshire CT
Posts: 2,157
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ONe shopmade over 500whp with the ssv but they also head headwork done
Old 10-11-2008, 09:36 AM
  #6  
SmallTuner
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
SmallTuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: kuwait
Posts: 894
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

again this SSV is back !!!

its still on the market !! its better u ask ur self this Q ....

why dose Forgedperformance, GTM, SGP, InjectedPerformance, performancefactory not sealing them ???
Old 10-11-2008, 09:51 AM
  #7  
DracoLancet04Z
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
DracoLancet04Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Garland TX
Posts: 1,139
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SmallTuner
again this SSV is back !!!

its still on the market !! its better u ask ur self this Q ....

why dose Forgedperformance, GTM, SGP, InjectedPerformance, performancefactory not sealing them ???
i am going to have to give a +5 to that

does look pretty damn cool though
Old 10-11-2008, 12:35 PM
  #8  
vinnycuz
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
vinnycuz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Howard Beach, NY
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I see what your saying here, interesting enough, some people have it and love it and others say you can damage your engine. I guess we really need to get the .02 of the people who have them, who damaged their car or are running perfect with them.
Old 10-11-2008, 12:47 PM
  #9  
sentry65
the burninator
iTrader: (11)
 
sentry65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: phoenix, AZ
Posts: 9,722
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I think it is way overpriced, but not as much as the cosworth

It's still a worthy piece though as long as you get some sort of headwork or headers.

It also saves 10lbs, easy to take on and off, and takes up less space
Old 10-11-2008, 08:41 PM
  #10  
jwttz
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
 
jwttz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: san diego
Posts: 259
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

There was a design flaw in it. I bought it when they first released it, had it for about 3 months, went for some boost and the welds cracked at 12 psi. It also made less power than the stock manifold on my car. it's not worth the money IMO. The cosworth however seems to be making big power if you bump up the rev limiter.

Last edited by jwttz; 10-11-2008 at 08:44 PM.
Old 10-11-2008, 08:59 PM
  #11  
sentry65
the burninator
iTrader: (11)
 
sentry65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: phoenix, AZ
Posts: 9,722
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

yeah that's true about the welds on the SSV.

Plenums that are designed specifically for extreme high rpm power, don't make power and usually lose power at mid-low rpms.

SSR's "coffin" plenum is that way. It loses power all over the place, but at like 7000 rpms and higher, it'll make power.
The prototype plenum that Charles from CJM was working on is also the same way he said
Old 10-12-2008, 06:44 AM
  #12  
vinnycuz
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
vinnycuz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Howard Beach, NY
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Interesting, my plan is to go back to MREV2, 5/16th Spacer and either Polished Stock upper or a Kinetix V+ upper.

Since I am a 05 non revup, will the MREV2 give me power or should I stick with the stock lower collector and the 5/16ths spacer?

Anyone have any problems with a V+ plenum on a turbo setup? I see alot of engine bays with them installed.
Old 10-12-2008, 02:43 PM
  #13  
350 Rookie
Banned
iTrader: (29)
 
350 Rookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Cheshire CT
Posts: 2,157
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ive heard alot of good things about the APS tallboy plenum which is what im gonna get eventually
Old 10-12-2008, 02:56 PM
  #14  
SmallTuner
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
SmallTuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: kuwait
Posts: 894
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by vinnycuz
I see what your saying here, interesting enough, some people have it and love it and others say you can damage your engine. I guess we really need to get the .02 of the people who have them, who damaged their car or are running perfect with them.
thats a lie , only a bad tune can damage ur engine.

if u like it, and like how it looks,keep it and dont worry about ur engine.

i tune a car here in kuwait with a Turbonetics ST.

that time he had the plenum on his car, he just lose some power in the same boost runing befor.

i allso noticed that when i was tring to controle the injectors in the injector map, it was hard for me to make a smooth AFR line on the dyno Graph.

but the guy still wana keep it ,and his happy with it.
Old 10-12-2008, 03:02 PM
  #15  
SmallTuner
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
SmallTuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: kuwait
Posts: 894
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by vinnycuz
Interesting, my plan is to go back to MREV2, 5/16th Spacer and either Polished Stock upper or a Kinetix V+ upper.

Since I am a 05 non revup, will the MREV2 give me power or should I stick with the stock lower collector and the 5/16ths spacer?

Anyone have any problems with a V+ plenum on a turbo setup? I see alot of engine bays with them installed.
yep im looking for an answer for this allso.
Old 10-12-2008, 07:10 PM
  #16  
RudeG_v2.0
でたらめ検出器
iTrader: (1)
 
RudeG_v2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 5,800
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by vinnycuz
Interesting, my plan is to go back to MREV2, 5/16th Spacer and either Polished Stock upper or a Kinetix V+ upper.

Since I am a 05 non revup, will the MREV2 give me power or should I stick with the stock lower collector and the 5/16ths spacer?

Anyone have any problems with a V+ plenum on a turbo setup? I see alot of engine bays with them installed.
The MREV2 is for the revup and does not benefit the non-revup. The purpose of the MREV2 is too fatten up the low to midrange powerband that was lost on the revup motor versus the non-revup. If your motor is non-revup, you are better off using a spacer alone.
Old 10-12-2008, 07:41 PM
  #17  
SpoilsofWar
Registered User
iTrader: (39)
 
SpoilsofWar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Way North, New York
Posts: 2,359
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by vinnycuz

Anyone have any problems with a V+ plenum on a turbo setup? I see alot of engine bays with them installed.
There were a bunch of problems in the past with them cracking, but they are on the 4th or 5th version or some such craziness now, and I dont hear about any problems anymore. That may be because not many people boosted run them anymore.

I've had mine on for over 2 years now, and about 2500 miles with FI. It sees 8psi normally and has seen as much as 12psi without issues. I plan on keeping it on when I turn up my boost to about 15psi next month, and hopefully it is fine. For what I paid for it (next to nothing), I dont really care if it breaks because I will just replace it. If I was already FI, I probably would not buy one because its just not worth the potential risk. Better to go with a plenum spacer, or an APS or Crawford plenum.

Jay'z also has one on his procharger setup, so maybe he will chime in.
Old 10-12-2008, 08:55 PM
  #18  
Lawy'dU
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Lawy'dU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: globetrotter
Posts: 1,770
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SmallTuner
again this SSV is back !!!

its still on the market !! its better u ask ur self this Q ....

why dose Forgedperformance, GTM, SGP, InjectedPerformance, performancefactory not sealing them ???
huh? correct your engrish chief

they prefer the cosworth which produces the same results as the ssv lol
Old 10-12-2008, 09:10 PM
  #19  
RudeG_v2.0
でたらめ検出器
iTrader: (1)
 
RudeG_v2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 5,800
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Thumbs down

Originally Posted by Lawy'dU
huh? correct your engrish chief

they prefer the cosworth which produces the same results as the ssv lol
Gee, thanks for yet another less than helpful and inaccurate post containing an unprevoked insult.

How many times do you need to be banned before you stop posting like this?

Last edited by RudeG_v2.0; 10-12-2008 at 10:01 PM.
Old 10-13-2008, 03:10 AM
  #20  
SmallTuner
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
SmallTuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: kuwait
Posts: 894
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Lawy'dU
huh? correct your engrish chief

they prefer the cosworth which produces the same results as the ssv lol
!!!! thats true


Quick Reply: Kinetix SSV with a TN Kit



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:17 AM.