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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by r0mey
Like I said before just to be clear. I dont have the report yet.

Im anxious to find out why my second built motor didnt fire on start up. As I stated both parties agree whoever is at fault to completely 100 percent stand behind their work and get me back on the road at no out of pocket expense to me with no questions asked no EXCUSES MADE. . Both parties agreed to the shop and both agreed it was unbias. Since this motor had nothing to do with me failing apon start up. I will post the results tommorrow to whoever is at fault and what they are gonna do. I hope both parties keep their verbal agreement with me as they stated
i feel bad for you,but i'm sure the spotlight on this situation should help you get satisfaction finally.
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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r0mey,

If it is anything on our end, rest assured you will get taken care of 110%, I hope Julian will do the same.

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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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^At the very least, its reassuring to hear something like that.
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by George@GTM
r0mey,

If it is anything on our end, rest assured you will get taken care of 110%, I hope Julian will do the same.

-George

Well that is what I call MAN'ING up. Earned my respect
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by coachk
You mean good response from George at GTM....Sam has not all of a sudden learned how to spell and use proper grammar

proper grammar has nothing to do with technicality and Sam is a hightly skill turner and has very good knowledge with VQ engines. You don't have to communicate well in order to perform well in your field.
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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yas! eye spekue no engulish!!
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by THE ROADSTER
proper grammar has nothing to do with technicality and Sam is a hightly skill turner and has very good knowledge with VQ engines. You don't have to communicate well in order to perform well in your field.
WTF??? Of everything posted in this thread, you had to quote that??? And you totally missed the point of coachk's post BTW.
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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First of all, good luck Rome. I know how it feels...trust me.

Secondly, since my name was dropped into the thread, I just thought I'd make it clear with no guesses or assumptions. This is just my experience, and not related to anything else in this thread.

I have a 4.24L stroked GTM VQ Motor. After it was completed, I drove it around at wastegate boost 99% of the time. Drove it around for 4 months of so, then shipped it back to Canada when I had to move back. Customs seized it for 7 months, and the car was not touched at all (2 inches thick of dust on the car, mileage unchanged, settings unchanged, etc). When I got it back, I drove it for about 1 month before things started going wrong. It was spewing coolant. We thought it was the thermostat, so we gutted it. Ran fine for another 2 weeks. Then spewing coolant again. We flushed the radiator, and changed the cap. Ran fine for another week. Spewed coolant again. At this point I was bleeding it every other day just to be able to get it moving. Finally took it to a competent local shop and diagnosed it to be a loss of pressure in cylinder #6. Headlift. Shop called Sam and I was told that it will not be warranteed as it's been over a year. Understandable, although I drove it for only about 5 months, with a total of about 5000 miles. Never tracked. Never beat on excessively. I paid for the head gasket replacement out of pocket.

I don't blame GTM, as they are right that they don't know what had happened. It was too far for me to ship it, and to just replace a head gasket, it was not financially viable. But I know how I drove it, and I don't think the engine was meant to take a beating, despite the pricetag. That's my own opinion. But to say that it was GTM's fault, who knows? Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. I can't honestly say at this point.

My engine never blew, it was just a head gasket.

I'm neutral at this point. I paid for it myself. The car has since been running fine and was sold. That's all I have to say.
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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Thanks for your input Alex. Your ordeal sounded heartbreaking. I would have been sooo bummed if that had happened to me.

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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitrouz
First of all, good luck Rome. I know how it feels...trust me.

Secondly, since my name was dropped into the thread, I just thought I'd make it clear with no guesses or assumptions. This is just my experience, and not related to anything else in this thread.

I have a 4.24L stroked GTM VQ Motor. After it was completed, I drove it around at wastegate boost 99% of the time. Drove it around for 4 months of so, then shipped it back to Canada when I had to move back. Customs seized it for 7 months, and the car was not touched at all (2 inches thick of dust on the car, mileage unchanged, settings unchanged, etc). When I got it back, I drove it for about 1 month before things started going wrong. It was spewing coolant. We thought it was the thermostat, so we gutted it. Ran fine for another 2 weeks. Then spewing coolant again. We flushed the radiator, and changed the cap. Ran fine for another week. Spewed coolant again. At this point I was bleeding it every other day just to be able to get it moving. Finally took it to a competent local shop and diagnosed it to be a loss of pressure in cylinder #6. Headlift. Shop called Sam and I was told that it will not be warranteed as it's been over a year. Understandable, although I drove it for only about 5 months, with a total of about 5000 miles. Never tracked. Never beat on excessively. I paid for the head gasket replacement out of pocket.

I don't blame GTM, as they are right that they don't know what had happened. It was too far for me to ship it, and to just replace a head gasket, it was not financially viable. But I know how I drove it, and I don't think the engine was meant to take a beating, despite the pricetag. That's my own opinion. But to say that it was GTM's fault, who knows? Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. I can't honestly say at this point.

My engine never blew, it was just a head gasket.

I'm neutral at this point. I paid for it myself. The car has since been running fine and was sold. That's all I have to say.
wow, didn't know this. you got the lose-lose deal on that one. with the $$ that I think you've spent it shouldn't be leaking anything and nothing should be lifting with the minimal miles you had on the car. I guess GTM took your cash and wiped their hands clean. That's a double bogus.. with the customs issue and ending up with a money-pit lemon that needed more money dumping to get it to the condition where it should've been in the first place. sorry to hear that.

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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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I would hate to own a business and advertise on this sky is falling forum. I saw where gothchic posted something like gtm was like Aam and mention vrt. Wow is all I can say. Salem witch trials come to mind.....
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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you gotta wonder, if it was so incredibly easy to make a bulletproof 600whp car for under $80k, why don't more car companies cash in on it?

Even OEM cars break stuff

At least some of us know throwing more money at a build isn't going to make every possible problem magically never show up again. They will.

IMO the more power you run, the more problems you're going to have - expensive or not.
I could be wrong, but I also tend to think more maintenance than normal is needed with higher powered cars.

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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason333
I would hate to own a business and advertise on this sky is falling forum. I saw where gothchic posted something like gtm was like Aam and mention vrt. Wow is all I can say. Salem witch trials come to mind.....
24 pages of customer heartbreak and huge money lost and your only response is pity for gtm?gtm is guilty of lies,character assasination,diversion tactics,finger pointing,cover ups and when that obsticle course is laid out it's followed by a "if you can prove it's our fault we'll take care of it" or "send it back to us and we'll tell you what we think".who has the stamina to negotiate all that bs and if you do you still haven't cleared the final hurtle....nutswingers.what planet are you living on?
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
you gotta wonder, if it was so incredibly easy to make a bulletproof 600whp car for under $80k, why don't more car companies cash in on it?

Even OEM cars break stuff

At least some of us know throwing more money at a build isn't going to make every possible problem magically never show up again. They will.

IMO the more power you run, the more problems you're going to have - expensive or not
Ummm... Supra guys have been doing it reliably for a long time. And car companies know they can get a lot more money for a 600whp car and would never think of selling such a car for under $80K.
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
you gotta wonder, if it was so incredibly easy to make a bulletproof 600whp car for under $80k, why don't more car companies cash in on it?

Even OEM cars break stuff

At least some of us know throwing more money at a build isn't going to make every possible problem magically never show up again. They will.

IMO the more power you run, the more problems you're going to have - expensive or not
i gave up trying to help you,but i have no problem telling you that your bs posts are getting annoying.it has more to do with insurance,and the liability of putting that kind of power into the hands of idiots with the credit to buy,but lack skills to control the car.it is certainly not a technology problem.

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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
Ummm... Supra guys have been doing it reliably for a long time.
oh yeah, supras....don't they like I dunno, have cast iron engines engineered specifically from the ground up for punishment and boost?


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And car companies know they can get a lot more money for a 600whp car and would never think of selling such a car for under $80K.
yup, that's the cost of "reliability" and a warranty at work
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Originally Posted by sentry65
oh yeah, supras....don't they like I dunno, have cast iron engines engineered specifically from the ground up for punishment and boost?




yup, that's the cost of "reliability" and a warranty at work
Well, Supra shops that have entered the VQ arena (Intense, Injected Performance, and Sound Performance) seem to be having no problems thus far with building reliable 600+whp VQ motors.
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
Well, Supra shops that have entered the VQ arena (Intense, Injected Performance, and Sound Performance) seem to be having no problems thus far with building reliable 600+whp VQ motors.
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
Well, Supra shops that have entered the VQ arena (Intense, Injected Performance, and Sound Performance) seem to be having no problems thus far with building reliable 600+whp VQ motors.

reliable as in what?

how many miles and whp are they running?

...didn't know Intense or Injected even did their own machine work with building engines BTW...interesting, nothing listed on their site
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 02:59 AM
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I would suggest everyone take a step back and wait for the report to come in..

if you don't have a failed engine from GTM.. and most of you in here are my friends in that category.. do me a favor and back off

wether you guys who had no engine failures with GTM like it or not.. you are burning uneccssary bridges.. wait for the results.. let those who had issues with GTM go at GTM

no one knows the results so it go either way at this point.. just do me a favor and chill out till the results are in



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